Amy Isabella CROPLEY

[56928]

5 JUL 1867 - 21 AUG 1934

Family 1 : Elias H. KINNEY
  1. +Samuel William KINNEY

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[56928] The unverified file M6QM-QKT in familysearch.org offers: "When Amy Isabella Cropley was born on 5 July 1867, in Fosterville, North Lake, York, New Brunswick, Canada, her father, James Wesley Cropley, was 43 and her mother, Mary Elizabeth Homan, was 26. She married Elias H. Kinney on 20 February 1892, in Danforth, Washington, Maine, United States. They were the parents of at least 2 sons and 3 daughters. She died on 21 August 1934, in Danforth, Washington, Maine, United States, at the age of 67."

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Dorcas FIELD

[51359]

CA 1675 - 1718

Family 1 : John BUNKER
  1. +Zachariah BUNKER

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[51359] Dorcas is said to be daughter of Zachariah Field (1645-1720) & Sarah Roberts (1655-1738; m. about 1671 in Oyster River, Durham, Strafford Co., NH).

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Judith of FONVENS

____ - ____

Father: Gerard I, Count of FONVENS

Family 1 : Uralon, Lord of VERGY
  1. +Gérard, Sire DE VERGY

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Robert HENCKELE

[14298]

____ - 1522-23

Father: John HENCKY

Family 1 :
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[14298] Robert m. Johane ____. His will is dated 1522 and he d. between 30-Dec-1522 and 4-Feb-1523. He is the first of the descendancy to be provable as an ancestor according to "Hinckley Heritage," E. Charles Hinckley.

[14297] [S257] "Hinckley Heritage," by E. Charles Hinckley, p. 6-7.

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Johann Gerhardt LUCKENBACH

[37041]

16 MAR 1683 - 1758

Family 1 : Anna Catherina CROBACH
  1. +Margaret LUCKENBACH

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[37041] This person is from the Ritter Family Tree in Ancestry.com in 2014 which states Johann arrived in Phiadelphia, PA in 1740 and is son of Sebastian Luckenbach (1650-1707) and Catherina Gross (d. 1750). A file in Ancestry.com in 2014 offers: "Johann Gerradt(3), Luckenbach (Sebastian, 2 , Jacob,1 ) was born March 16, 1683/84 in Winkelbach, Westerwald, Hessen-Nassau, Germany, and died 1758 in York County, PA. He married Anna Catherina Crobach September 22, 1706 in Höchstenbach, Westerwald, Hessen, Germany, daughter of Johann Croppach and Catharina ?. She was born April 18, 1688 in Winkelbach, Westerwald, Hessen-Nassau, Germany, and died January 10, 1749/50 in York County, PA. Notes for Johann Gerradt Luckenbach:John Gerradt Luchenbach, the emigrant ancestor of the family, was a native of Winckelbach, near Hachenburg, Nassau, Germany. He arrived with his family at Philadelphia on the ship "Samuel and Elizabeth" from Rotterdam, on September 30, 1740. Appearing under his name on the ship's list of male passengers were those of his two sons, Johan Adam, age 27, Johan Heinrich, age 18. His age was given as 50. His decision to leave Germany was undoubtedly timed with the accession of Frederick the Great to the throne, who immediately began great preparations for wars of attrition, including the invasion of Silesia. The first twenty-four years of his life had already been spent on a constant battleground, the boundary war between Germany and France, 1688-1697, concluded by the Peace of Westphalia, and the War of the Spanish Succession, 1703-1714, concluded by the Peace of Baden. Probably foreseeing nothing better for the future and having two sons of military age, he moved his family to PA where there was peace, religious tolerance and plenty. He settled in the western part of Lancaster County, now York County, in the townships of Dover and Paradise. His first land record appearing in the county records is the transfer of 190 acres in Dover and Paradise Townships " To Henry Lookinbaugh, son of the aforesaid John Gerradt". His will was probated in 1758, in which he left his estate to his wife and second son, John Henry. His reason for cutting off his older son, John Adam, the school master, is obscure. Perhaps it was because John Adam married a girl of the Moravian faith, moved to Berks County, and was buried in the old Moravian Cemetery at Bethlehem, PA, in 1785. More About Johann Gerradt Luckenbach: Immigration: September 30, 1740, Took Oaths to Government as GerhartProbate: 1758, Left estate to wife and Johann Heinrich."

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Lucretia Maud MILLER

[10031]

2 DEC 1909 - 29 NOV 1928

Father: Grover Cleveland MILLER
Mother: Nellie Mae BOYER


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[10031] Lucretia m. Alex LaDuc and had Joan LaDuc who died at birth in Oct., 1928.

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George W. STEINHOFF

14 OCT 1879 - ____

Father: Orlando G. STEINHOFF
Mother: Ellen ("Ella") W. WOOD


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Rotrou of TREVES

[608]

CA 690 - 724

Father: Leutwinus (St. Liévin) of TREVES

Family 1 : Charles Martel, King of FRANKS
  1. +Aude ("Aldane") Martel of AUSTRASIA
  2. +Pippin III ("the Short"), King of FRANKS
  3. +Carloman of the FRANKS
  4.  Chiltrude of the FRANKS
  5. +Hiltrud of the FRANKS

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[608]

AKA Chrothrudis de Trèves. "The Carolingians," Pierre Riché (Philadelpha: U of PA Press, 1993), Table 2, states Charles Martel m. (1) Chrotrude (d. 724) and (3) Rudhaid (mother of Bernard whose sons are Adalhard (d. 826; Abbot of Corbie) and Wala (d. 836; Abbot of Corbie). Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotrude_of_Trier.

Rotrou may NOT be daughter of Leutwinus, Bishop of Treves - see www.rootsweb.com/~medieval/addcharlENG.pdf. which offers:

". . . the most important correction concerns the ancestry of Rotrude, wife of Charles Martel. Let us briefly recall the details of this problem: We can be assured from the agreement of several lines of evidence that the first wife of Charles Martel was named Rotrude, but with that name our certainty ends. The name itself, which would become frequent in the offspring of the Carolingians, was rather rare at this time, so it can serve as an initial clue concerning the previous history of its owner. Among the great families of the time, there were only a few who used the radical "Rot" of Rotrude. We have the Agilolfings, then encountered in Bavaria or in Lombardy (Rodoald), also a duke of Le Mans named Roger of whom the exact antecedents are not known, but especially there was the powerful family of the Robert who originated in Burgundy and then settled in Belgian Hesbaye. On simple onomastic grounds, one must agree with R. Gerberding that Rotrude's name links her with the family of Roger or, better, with that of Robert.

"We have to clarify a little. We can set aside for the moment the family of Roger (which can be identified thanks to his children’s names). In fact, the name of Landrada, daughter of Charles Martel and Rotrude, allows certain links with Robert’s family which also used this name: Robert, duke of Hesbaye towards 740 was the paternal nephew of a Landrada.

"So, Rotrude was likely connected in a rather close way with the clan of Robert / Lambert. Nevertheless, most genealogists give her as a daughter of St. Lievin, bishop of Trier, which R. Gerberding judged to be an "unfortunate conjecture". This theory is founded on the text of the Gesta of the abbots of Fontenelle, which certifies that the abbot Guy, known to be a son of St. Lievin, was the "close kin" of Charles Martel. The Latin term (propinquus) is vague and can indicate a cousin as well as a relation by marriage (brother-in-law). In 1915, the young German historian A. Halbedel, who would shortly fall in battle, suggested that the relationship could be explained if Rotrude was the sister of Guy. The hypothesis gained widespread acceptance in Germany and in France, where it was accepted by J. Depoin and M. Chaume. While recognizing the extreme fragility of the only positive testimony, one can not help but to also reject the main objection of R. Gerberding: that the exclusively local political influence of Charles Martel before 716 would make alliance with an Austrasian family improbable. The agnatic origin of Charles, from Metz, makes this doubt peremptory and not very probable.

"In fact, it is almost certain that the family of Guy (Widonides) had become allied with that of Robert / Lambert. In two acts (two forgeries, but with authentic signa) of Arnulf and Hugues, nephews of Charles Martel, for the years 706 and 715, we have the signa of "Milon, Guy, Guerimbert, Lambert and Garnier ". Now, Milon was the brother of Guy, Grimbert possibly an uncle or a cousin, and Garnier a son or a likely nephew of Guy. Lambert is thus certainly a close relative of this group. Moreover Metlach's convent, founded by St. Lievin, had among its first four abbots one Lambert and one Robert. Lambert's name would become, along with Guy and Garnier, one of three main names of the Widonides. And the root "Rot" also is encountered in the Widonid family with Roger or Rodoald in the 8th century.

"So, the idea of a relationship between Rotrude and the Widonides through a common alliance with the family of Lambert / Robert seems reasonable. But this link does not allow the establishment of a precise filiation. For that, let us examine the other various meanings of the word propinquus which describes the relationship between Charles and Guy. There are no Widonid names in Charles Martel's ancestry. In the same way, no relative of Guy carries a name that one
can find in the ancestry of Charles. Sure, our documentation is so defective (particularly for the mother of Charles and that of Guy) that it makes any conclusion rash, but the great number of names known on both sides, for direct ancestors as well as collateral kin, points out the unlikelihood of an alliance between the families of Charles Martel and Guy in the generations before theirs. In light of this, the possible solutions are reduced:


- Guy or one of his brothers married a sister of Charles Martel.
- Guy or one of his brothers married a sister-in-law of Charles, a sister of Rotrude.
- Charles married a sister or a cousin of Guy.


"If the wife of Charles or Guy was a relative more remote than a sister of the other (niece or cousin), the Latin term propinquus would not be employed in a correct (attested) sense. This lack of such attested use for propinquus argues also against the second solution. Against the first solution is the lack of Pippinid onomastics in the posterity of Guy (which would become successively count of Nantes, dukes of Spoleto, and emperors, succeeding as the Salian imperial dynasty). The same argument is less applicable to the third case, because the Pippinids were much more illustrious than the Widonids. This is the reasoning we used in our work. But, on second thought, we do not believe it as clear as formerly: the argument is too uncertain.

"Finally, it is necessary to remember a major problem with this reconstruction: nothing proves that the relationship between Charles and Guy involved Rotrude. Indeed, Charles had at least three wives or partners: Rotrude, Swanechilde and Rothaide. By the last one he probably had a son named Bernard, father of Corbie's abbot Adalard. Now, Adalard is the name of a brother of Garnier I of Hornbach, likely nephew of Guy. One can thus believe that it is Rothaide who establishes the link between Guy and Charles. But, even in this case, one can conclude that Rothaide is certainly a relative of Rotrude, of whom her name is only a variant. Moreover, Pippin of Herstal, son of Rotrude, nevertheless named one of his daughters Rothaide.

"The only conclusion of this discussion is that Rotrude was certainly a kinswoman of the Robert / Lambert family, perhaps directly, or perhaps through the family of St. Lievin. In any case, we have to correct what we wrote about the links between St. Lievin and Robert. For the study of these families, we followed H. Lemmel. This was an error, for the study of H. Lemmel is of poor quality. A fresh look at the documentation shows the existence of two distinct groups, certainly akin : one is that of the Agilolfings and Lambert, and the other one is that of the Widonids and Lambert. The distinction between the two is really important because we must then identify the wife of Lievin, Wisigarde, as a woman of the Agilolfing clan.

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