_Robert DE GREY ___________________________+ | _Walter DE GREY ______________|_Beatrice DE SCULCOTES ____________________ | m 1247 _Robert DE GREY _____| | (1246 - ....) | | | _William (II) DUSTON ______________________+ | | | (1198 - 1231) m 1217 | |_Isabel DE DUSTON ____________|_Mary WAKE ________________________________ | (.... - 1305) m 1247 (1192 - 1235) _John DE GREY ________| | (.... - 1312) | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | ______________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | |_Joan DE VALOGNES ___| | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | |______________________________|___________________________________________ | _John DE GREY _______| | (1300 - 1359) | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | ______________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | | _William ODINGSELLS _| | | | (.... - 1295) | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | | | |______________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | |_Margaret ODINGSELLS _| | (1277 - 1330) | | | _Robert Fitz WALTER _______________________+ | | | (1167 - 1235) | | _Walter Fitz ROBERT __________|_Gunora DE VALOINES _______________________ | | | | |_Ela Fitz WALTER ____| | | | | _William (II) LONGESPéE __________________+ | | | (.... - 1250) m 1226 | |_Ida LONGESPéE ______________|_Idonea CAMVILLE __________________________ | (.... - 1252) | |--John DE GREY | (1319 - 1375) | ___________________________________________ | | | _Brian FITZALAN ______________|___________________________________________ | | | _Alan FITZALAN ______| | | (.... - 1267) | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | |_Alice HANSARD _______________|___________________________________________ | | | _Brian FITZALAN ______| | | (.... - 1306) | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | | ______________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | | | |_Agnes FITZRANDOLPH _| | | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | |______________________________|___________________________________________ | | |_Catherine FITZALAN _| (1300 - ....) | | _Hugh DE BALIOL ___________________________+ | | (.... - 1229) m 1200 | _John DE BALIOL ______________|_Cecily DE FONTAINES ______________________ | | (.... - 1269) m 1233 | _John BALLIOL _______| | | (1249 - 1314) | | | | _Alan MacDonal, Lord of GALLOWAY __________+ | | | | (1185 - 1234) m 1209 | | |_Devorguilla of GALLOWAY _____|_Margaret of HUNTINGDON ___________________ | | (1220 - 1290) m 1233 (.... - 1229) |_Agnes Maud BALIOL ___| | | _William, de Warenne, 6th Earl of SURREY __+ | | (.... - 1240) m 1225 | _John Plantagenet DE WARENNE _|_Maud (aka Matilda) MARSHALL ______________ | | (1231 - 1304) m 1247 (.... - 1248) |_Isabel WARREN ______| (1253 - ....) | | _Hugh (X) of Lusignan, Count of La MARCHE _+ | | (.... - 1249) m 1217 |_Alix DE LUSIGNAN ____________|_Isabella of ANGOULêME ___________________ (.... - 1256) m 1247 (1188 - 1246)
[21839] This family is from the LDS Church's unverified Ancestral File (18HS-HMX) which states that John is of Rotherfield, Oxfordshire. See Burke's "Dormant and Excinct Peerages," p. 247, and G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, "The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed.," (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 235 and volume VI, page 147.
__ | __|__ | _______________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Daniel HERB ____________| | (1757 - 1844) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_______________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Johan Daniel HERB __| | (1797 - 1868) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | _Johann Philip HEYMAN _| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_Christina HEYMAN _______| | (1757 - 1823) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_Anna Maria HINCKEL ___| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Mary Elizabeth ("Polly") HERB | (1830 - 1876) | __ | | | __|__ | | | _______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _Johannes KLOCK _________| | | (1777 - 1833) | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |_______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Elizabeth KLOCK ____| (1800 - 1846) | | __ | | | __|__ | | | _______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Magdalene DUNKELBERGER _| (1777 - 1855) | | __ | | | __|__ | | |_______________________| | | __ | | |__|__
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _William ISACKE _____| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Richard ISAACKE ____| | (1543 - 1591) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | __| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Jane ISAACKE | | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |__| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
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Consistory Court of Lincoln Wills, 198,849
__________________________________________ | _____________________|__________________________________________ | ___________________________| | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________|__________________________________________ | ________________________________| | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | _____________________|__________________________________________ | | | | |___________________________| | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________|__________________________________________ | _Frederick Oscar ROBERTS _______| | (1869 - 1951) m 1890 | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | _____________________|__________________________________________ | | | | | ___________________________| | | | | | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | | | | |_____________________|__________________________________________ | | | | |________________________________| | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | _____________________|__________________________________________ | | | | |___________________________| | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________|__________________________________________ | | |--Alpha Carolyn ROBERTS | (1903 - 1995) | _George Michael BREINER __________________ | | (.... - 1782) | _Peter BREINER ______|_Catharina Magdalena (Ley or) LOY ________ | | (1780 - 1831) (1742 - 1806) | _George Washington BRINER _| | | (.... - 1843) m 1842 | | | | _Johann Georg (Hamer or) HAMMER __________+ | | | | (1755 - 1812) | | |_Catharina HAMMER ___|_Anna Maria, wife of Johann Georg HAMMER _ | | (1791 - 1861) (1743 - 1830) | _George Washington (Jr) BRINER _| | | (1843 - 1935) m 1869 | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | | | _____________________|__________________________________________ | | | | | | |_Mary E. SOWERS ___________| | | (1816 - 1899) m 1842 | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|__________________________________________ | | |_Anna ("Annie") Lillian BRINER _| (1870 - 1967) m 1890 | | __________________________________________ | | | _____________________|__________________________________________ | | | _John W. BRUNTON __________| | | (1806 - 1885) | | | | __________________________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|__________________________________________ | | |_Mary Evaline BRUNTON __________| (1851 - 1932) m 1869 | | __________________________________________ | | | _____________________|__________________________________________ | | |_Edna FERGUSON ____________| (1812 - 1890) | | __________________________________________ | | |_____________________|__________________________________________
_____________________ | _____________________|_____________________ | _____________________| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _John SKINNER __________| | (1733 - 1801) m 1754 | | | _____________________ | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _William SKINNER ____| | (1757 - 1808) m 1780| | | _____________________ | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | | | |_Mary Elizabeth MORRIS _| | (1743 - 1799) m 1754 | | | _____________________ | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |--Violet SKINNER | (1793 - 1840) | _William DUNCAN _____ | | (1630 - 1692) m 1657 | _William DUNCAN _____|_Susan HALDANE ______ | | (1659 - 1720) m 1682 (1635 - 1669) | _Thomas DUNCAN ______| | | (1686 - 1776) | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_Margaret MCMURDE ___|_____________________ | | (1661 - 1720) m 1682 | _John DUNCAN ___________| | | (1727 - 1794) m 1753 | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |_Martha V. DUNCAN ___| (1759 - 1845) m 1780| | _____________________ | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |_Violet NEWELL _________| (.... - 1772) m 1753 | | _____________________ | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | |_____________________| | | _____________________ | | |_____________________|_____________________
[40385] The unverified Raymond Family Tree in Ancestry.com in 2016 offers: "Violet Skinner was born on February 14, 1793, the child of William and Martha . . . . She died in 1840 at the age of 47."
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _John SOUTHWORTH ____| | (1478 - 1517) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Thomas SOUTHWORTH __| | (1497 - 1545) m 1518| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | __| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_Helen LANGTON ______| | (1480 - ....) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--John SOUTHWORTH | (1526 - 1593) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _Thomas BOTELER _____| | | (1461 - 1522) m 1482| | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |__| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Margery BOTELER ____| (1500 - 1546) m 1518| | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Margaret DELVES ____| (1463 - ....) m 1482| | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
A file appended to the unverified Peter Golla Family Tree in Ancestry.com in 2013 offers:
John Southworth was born in 1526 in of Samlesbury, London, England, England. He died on 3 November 1595 in Salmsbury Hall, London, England. . . . Sir John came into possession of Samlesbury and many other estates during the difficult times of 1546. During Elizabeth's reign he was in constant misunderstandings with Sir Francis Walsingham about his "Romanism," and questionable loyalty to Elizabeth. To add to his misery the eldest son and heir had become a "Protestant," the first of the family to leave the established church. In 1584 Walsingham, hearing that young Thomas was to be disinherited, had old Sir John placed under detention in London. In 1594, he was allowed to return to Samlesbury, after spending several years in Fleet Prison, broken in spirit and health, and died Nov. 3, 1595. He made a will "Weake in Bodie but of perfect remembrance," and what he remembered must have been bitter, indeed.
The Boston Transcript, September 2, 1931: Sir John Southworth Knt., of Samlesbury Hall, Lancashire, died 1595, was not "extremely wealthy." He was land poor. There was a caveat against the probate and administration of his will. After his debts were paid the remnant of his estates went to his eldest son Thomas, whom he had threatened to disinherit, with remainder to John, eldest son and heir of said Thomas. Prosecutions, fines, imprisonment and absence from home on bail during his long persecution wrought havoc with his estates. Thomas, with a large family to support, had become heavily indebted to his father-in-law and had to encumber his estates still farther to pay the Lister annuities mentioned above. He died in 1617. His son and heir John had died v. p. in 1612, so his grandson Thomas inherited the estates. He died in 1622-23 aged about twenty-two, leaving a son and heir John, aged ten months, who died in 1635-6 aged fourteen. His brother was his heir. He died in 1641, aged seventeen years, leaving sisters as his heirs. Litigation between them and their Uncle John, the heir male, ensued. John received Samlesbury and his nieces the "Mellor" estates. This John had six sons and eight daughters. When he died in 1675 his first and second sons had died v.p., so his third son inherited the estate which was encumbered past retrieval, and 1679 passed entirely out of the family. We see the law of Primogeniture that the estate had seven owners in less than a century and there were three others that would have inherited it but died too soon. The above also shows the tendency of the family to die young, and Edward Southworth of Leyden did die young as we shall see. An illustration of the lack of wealth in the family is the pitiful case of Edward's niece Mary, whose father died v.p., and whoe brother inherited the property from Edward's father in 1617, the year after Mary's marriage to the Rev. James Martin, M. A., of Oxford. In 1623 he lost his living becasue he had churched mothers of illegitimate children without a public confession. In 1633 he wrote two pathetic appeals to the Archbishop of York . . . that his wife and son had died of starvation in the streets. And this was the fate of Mary Southworth brought up in Samlesbury Hall, Lancashire. It is not surprising that we found her Uncle Edward earning an honest living in Leyden as a weaver. As to the logical chronology of D. L. J.: Adam in his History of Blackburn gives Thomas born in 1561, and bases upon it "a point overlooked by the court." in his Southworth Pedigree, page 658, et seq., he gives John the eldest son the Thomas as father on nine children and that he died in 1612. He also gives the marriage of Sir John and Mary Assheton July 23, 1547, which date agrees with the Catholic Record Society. This makes Thomas their eldest son, born fourteen years after their marriage. This might happen if their four daughters were all born before any of their seven sons, but otherwise it would be incredible, unless Webber was wrong when he stated that she was a widow. Note a strange coincidence. Thomas's parents had seven sons and four daughters, and he also had seven sons and four daughters. All were named in the pedigree. 1561 is wrong, Thomas was born about 1548, the year after his parents were married. Ducomentary evidence gives Thomas and four brothers born and living in 1562 and by comparison of the Visitations of Yorkshire we learn that Rosamond Lister, his wife, was married between 1563-4 and 1571 and by documentary evidence that their sons John, Thomas and William were born and living in 1582 and probably one or more of their four daughters. Richard, Michael, Christopher and Edward were born after 1582 but all eleven children were living in 1595. This would bring Edward, seventh son, born about 1590. All the sons were living in 1602, but evidence shows that only William and Christopher of the sons of Thomas (died 1617) were still living in 1622. This shows that Edward died earlier.
___________________________ | ________________________|___________________________ | _____________________| | | | | ___________________________ | | | | |________________________|___________________________ | _____________________| | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | ________________________|___________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ___________________________ | | | | |________________________|___________________________ | _Charles Oliver YOUSE _| | (1869 - 1910) m 1896 | | | ___________________________ | | | | | ________________________|___________________________ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | | | |________________________|___________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | ________________________|___________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ___________________________ | | | | |________________________|___________________________ | | |--Ruth Mina YOUSE | (1900 - 1996) | _John Frederick BREINER ___+ | | (1762 - 1824) | _Johannes BRINER _______|___________________________ | | (1786 - 1863) | _John BRINER ________| | | (1813 - 1892) m 1834| | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | |_Maria Elizabeth LOEB __|___________________________ | | (1788 - 1863) | _Henry J. BRINER ____| | | (1844 - 1907) m 1873| | | | _John HENRY _______________ | | | | (1759 - 1841) m 1779 | | | _Jacob HENRY ___________|_Eva Margaret ZANGMEISTER _ | | | | (1784 - 1864) (1759 - 1848) | | |_Sarah HENRY ________| | | (1811 - 1893) m 1834| | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | |_Susanna Dare GOTSHALL _|___________________________ | | (1787 - 1861) |_Alice Jane BRINER ____| (1876 - 1971) m 1896 | | ___________________________ | | | ________________________|___________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | |________________________|___________________________ | | |_Catherine SIMPSON __| (1848 - 1918) m 1873| | ___________________________ | | | ________________________|___________________________ | | |_____________________| | | ___________________________ | | |________________________|___________________________