[44527] The unverified Olive Thompson Family Tree in Ancestry.com in 2018 offers: "William Allen was born in 1524. He had [a] daughter with Ann Goodale in 1544. He died in England."
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Reginald DE BAILLEUL _| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Hugh DE BALIOL _____| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | __| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_______________________| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Bernard I DE BALIOL | (.... - 1167) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |__| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_______________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
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In 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_I_de_Balliol offers: "Bernard I de Balliol (died 1154 x 1162), the second known ruling Balliol of his line, was a twelfth-century Anglo-Picard baron based for much of his time in the north of England, as well as at Bailleul-en-Vimeu close to Abbeville in northern France. He was the nephew and next known successor of Guy I de Balliol, the first Balliol in England. Bernard had succeeded to the lordships of his uncle by 1130 × 1133; during The Anarchy, perhaps in 1135, he appears to have sworn homage to David I, King of the Scots, who had taken over much of northern England in the name of his niece, Matilda, and in the name of his son, Henry, heir and claimant to the earldom of Northumbria. During David's campaign in 1138, and before the Battle of the Standard, Bernard and Robert I de Brus were sent to try to negotiate with David; after failing, Balliol allegedly renounced his homage to King David. Although Balliol and his cause were successful in that battle, Bernard experienced defeat three years later fighting alongside King Stephen at the Battle of Lincoln (1141). In the years following Balliol continued to suffer as his lands were repeatedly attacked by the Scots, and the Scottish-backed William Comyn, who was installed as Bishop of Durham between 1141 and 1144.
Bernard appears to have founded the new settlement and Castle of Barnard in County Durham, named after him; despite being named after him, however, the earliest Norman ring work there appears to predate 1130. Bernard had at least four younger brothers, Radulf (Ralph), Enguerrand (Ingram), Hugh, and Joscelin, and by his wife Maud (Matilda) fathered four sons, Enguerrand (Ingram), Guy, Eustace and Bernard, and one daughter, Hawise; Enguerrand predeceased him, and he was succeeded by Guy."
_Hervey BAGOT __________________________ | (.... - 1214) _Hervey STAFFORD _____________________|_Millicent STAFFORD ____________________ | (.... - 1237) m 1214 _Robert Stafford, Baron DE STAFFORD _| | (.... - 1261) | | | ________________________________________ | | | | |_Pernell FERRIERS ____________________|________________________________________ | m 1214 _Nicholas STAFFORD __| | (1246 - 1287) | | | ________________________________________ | | | | | _Thomas CORBET _______________________|________________________________________ | | | | |_Alice CORBET _______________________| | | | | ________________________________________ | | | | |______________________________________|________________________________________ | _Edmund Stafford, First Lord STAFFORD _| | (1272 - 1308) | | | ________________________________________ | | | | | ______________________________________|________________________________________ | | | | | _____________________________________| | | | | | | | | ________________________________________ | | | | | | | | |______________________________________|________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ________________________________________ | | | | | ______________________________________|________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________________________| | | | | ________________________________________ | | | | |______________________________________|________________________________________ | | |--Richard DE STAFFORD | (1305 - ....) | _Ralph BASSET __________________________+ | | | _Ralph BASSET ________________________|________________________________________ | | (1227 - 1265) | _Ralph BASSET _______________________| | | (.... - 1299) | | | | _Roger DE SOMERI _______________________+ | | | | m 1230 | | |_Margaret DE SOMERI __________________|_Nicole D'AUBIGNY ______________________ | | (.... - 1293) (1205 - 1240) | _Ralph BASSET _______| | | (.... - 1343) | | | | _Sir John DE GREY ______________________+ | | | | (1205 - ....) m 1230 | | | _Reginald DE GREY ____________________|_Emma DE GLANVILLE _____________________ | | | | (.... - 1308) (1207 - 1250) | | |_Joane DE GREY ______________________| | | | | | | _William (Lord) FITZHUGH _______________ | | | | | | |_Maud FITZHUGH _______________________|________________________________________ | | |_Margaret BASSET ______________________| (.... - 1337) | | _William DE BEAUCHAMP __________________+ | | (1237 - ....) | _Guy de Beauchamp, Earl of WARWICK ___|_Maud Fitzjohn Fitz PIERS ______________ | | (1278 - 1315) | _Thomas DE BEAUCHAMP ________________| | | (1313 - 1369) m 1337 | | | | _Ralph de Toeni (VII), Lord of BLISTON _+ | | | | (1255 - ....) | | |_Alice DE TOENI ______________________|________________________________________ | | (.... - 1325) |_Joan BEAUCHAMP _____| | | _Sir Edmund DE MORTIMER ________________+ | | (1261 - 1304) m 1285 | _Roger DE MORTIMER ___________________|_Margaret DE FIENES ____________________ | | (1287 - 1330) m 1301 (.... - 1334) |_Katherine MORTIMER _________________| (1314 - 1369) m 1337 | | _Piers DE GENEVILLE ____________________+ | | (1256 - ....) |_Joan ("Jeanne Joinville") GENEVILLE _|_Jeanne DE LUSIGNAN ____________________ (1286 - 1356) m 1301 (1262 - 1323)
[24042] http://www.staffordshire-knot.com/f_228.htm reports this child of Lord Edmund and Margaret, and states Richard m. Maud Camville (daughter of Richard de Camville). Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_de_Stafford,_1st_Baron_Stafford which lists him as son of Edmund and Margaret: "Richard Stafford (d. 1380), married Maud de Camville, daughter and heir of Richard de Camville of Clifton. Richard fought in the French wars of Edward III and was also appointed seneschal of Gascony. Their son, also Richard, was summoned to Parliament by Edward III and regularly participated through to 1379. He was appointed 1st Baron Stafford of Clifton, created by writ of summons on 8 January 1371." Find A Grave memorial 106466727 offers: "He was summoned to parliament among the barons of the realm from 44th Edward III to 3rd Richard II. 1341, M.P. for Staffs. Seneschal of Gascony. He was the Founder of the church of St. Andrew's, Clifton Campville although a church existed at the time of the Domesday survey in 1086-9. He was on the Council of State. BET 1341 - 1380, J.P. for Staffs. BET 1343 - 1368, Commissioner, Justice of Oyer, J.P., Collector of Subsidy. Styled Baron Clifton, Staffordshire by right of his wife Isabel Vernon. 1371, Summoned to Parliament as 'Sir Richard de Stafford le Piere'. Lord of the Manor of Pipe 1337, by grant of his mother, Margaret Basset; Lord of the Manor of Clifton Campville by right of his wife Isabel Vernon. Memorial Brass at St. Peter's Church."
[40697] Ancestry.com offers: "Doverspike Name Meaning - Americanized spelling of German Daubenspeck."
[53789] The unverified file L1BT-VCG in 2023 in familysearch.org offers: "When Delbert William Dusky was born on 28 June 1921, in Sheridan, Adams Township, Hamilton, Indiana, United States, his father, William Guy Dusky, was 31 and his mother, Pearl Edith Davis, was 15. He married Hattie Charlotte Hutchins on 31 August 1940, in Maine, United States. He lived in Cape Elizabeth, Cumberland, Maine, United States in 1940 and Portland, Cumberland, Maine, United States in 1940. He died on 25 April 1988, in Kokomo, Center Township, Howard, Indiana, United States, at the age of 66, and was buried in Indiana Veterans Cemetery, West Lafayette, Wabash Township, Tippecanoe, Indiana, United States."
__________________________ | _____________________|__________________________ | _____________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |_____________________|__________________________ | ______________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | | _____________________|__________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |_____________________|__________________________ | _George W. FREEMAN __| | (1832 - 1898) | | | __________________________ | | | | | _____________________|__________________________ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | | | |_____________________|__________________________ | | | | |______________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | | _____________________|__________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |_____________________|__________________________ | | |--Edward Jacob FREEMAN | (1851 - 1920) | __________________________ | | | _____________________|__________________________ | | | _Jacob SEIP _________| | | (1771 - 1850) | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|__________________________ | | | _Edward J. SEIP ______| | | (1809 - 1874) | | | | _Johan Simon HELLER ______ | | | | (1721 - 1785) | | | _Jacob HELLER _______|_Louisa (or Lowii) DIETZ _ | | | | (1750 - 1822) (1726 - 1768) | | |_Susanna HELLER _____| | | (1776 - 1869) | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |_Elisabeth DENTZLER _|__________________________ | | (1749 - 1834) |_Matilda R. SEIP ____| (1834 - 1906) | | __________________________ | | | _____________________|__________________________ | | | _Philip ODENWELDER __| | | (1780 - 1849) | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|__________________________ | | |_Mary Ann ODENWELDER _| (1811 - 1864) | | __________________________ | | | _Christian BUTZ _____|__________________________ | | (1756 - 1821) |_Elizabeth BUTZ _____| (1782 - 1842) | | _David WAGENER ___________ | | (1736 - 1796) |_Mary WAGENER _______|_Susanna UMSTEAD _________ (1759 - 1833) (1734 - 1819)
[28653] "The Morning Call [Allentown, Pennsylvania], 15 March 1920," p. 16: "Dr. Edward J. Freeman died on Saturday evening at 7.30 o'clock at his residence on MAIN street, Freemansburg, aged sixty-eight years. The cause of death was dropsy, with which Dr. Freeman had been ailing for two years. A native of Easton, Dr. Freeman in his early boyhood moved with his parents, the late Dr. George W. and Matilda (Seip) Freeman, to Freemansburg, where he received his early school training. Later he entered Schwartz's Academy, Bethlehem, and then Lehigh University, which he left In his Sophomore year to enter the medical department of the University of Pennsylvania. After graduation from the latter institution with the class of 1873 he became associated with his father, who had a large practice in Freemansburg. Upon the death of his father In 1898 he retired from the medical profession to give his time and attention to his many other business interests. Dr. Freeman was formerly chief burgess of the borough of Freemansburg, and at other times served in the town council and school board. He was a member of Trinity Reformed Church, of which he was treasurer for many years and many times proved himself a benefactor to the congregation. He was married on May 24, 1877, to Emily J., daughter of Mr. and Mrs. John Knecht, of Shimersville. He leaves his widow, one daughter, Mrs. Robert S. Mueller, of Baltimore, Md., two grandchildren and a brother, Dr. Walter S. Freeman, of Philadelphia." The 19 July 1860 federal census at Freemansburg Borough, Northampton Co., PA shows Edward, age 8, in the household of George and Matilda Freeman.
_Thomas GIBBS _______+ | (1460 - 1495) _John GIBBS _________|_Alice TRENWELL _____ | (1495 - 1586) (1464 - 1495) _William GIBBS ______| | (1531 - 1599) m 1562| | | _____________________ | | | | |_Margaret CHAMPNEY __|_____________________ | (1497 - 1559) _Stephen GIBBS ______| | (1562 - ....) m 1585| | | _____________________ | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | |_Jane GASON _________| | (1525 - 1593) m 1562| | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _William GIBBS ______| | (1600 - 1676) | | | _John TURNEY ________ | | | (1475 - 1520) m 1498 | | _John TURNEY ________|_Joan SELLINGE ______ | | | (1500 - ....) m 1558 (1478 - ....) | | _Thomas TURNEY ______| | | | (1540 - 1592) | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | | | |_Bennett HONIWOOD ___|_____________________ | | | (1538 - 1584) m 1558 | |_Jane TURNEY ________| | (1564 - ....) m 1585| | | _William BLECHYNDEN _ | | | (.... - 1511) | | _John BLECHYNDEN ____|_Agnes GODFREY ______ | | | (1510 - 1600) m 1526 (1489 - 1511) | |_Alice BLECHYNDEN ___| | (1540 - 1598) | | | _John CRISPE ________+ | | | (1482 - 1534) | |_Margaret CRISPE ____|_Avice DENNE ________ | (1505 - 1535) m 1526 (1486 - 1518) | |--Matthew GIBBS | (1626 - 1697) | _____________________ | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |_____________________| | | _____________________ | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |_____________________| | | _____________________ | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | |_____________________| | | _____________________ | | |_____________________|_____________________
[37487] This person is from the unverified Meckel Family Tree in Ancestry.com in 2014 which states Matthew arrived in MA in 1654.
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Edward HALL ________| | (.... - 1669) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | __| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Joseph HALL | (1646 - ....) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |__| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |__| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Zaccheus HILL ______| | (1708 - 1776) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | __| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Squire HILL | (1747 - 1826) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |__| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Mary SQUIRE ________| (1746 - ....) | | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |__| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
________________________ | _________________________|________________________ | _____________________| | | | | ________________________ | | | | |_________________________|________________________ | __________________________| | | | | ________________________ | | | | | _________________________|________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ________________________ | | | | |_________________________|________________________ | _Leslie KANE ________| | (1857 - 1933) | | | ________________________ | | | | | _________________________|________________________ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | ________________________ | | | | | | | | |_________________________|________________________ | | | | |__________________________| | | | | ________________________ | | | | | _________________________|________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ________________________ | | | | |_________________________|________________________ | | |--Florence Estella KANE | (1884 - 1964) | ________________________ | | | _________________________|________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ________________________ | | | | | | |_________________________|________________________ | | | _Thomas Chesley LUCKINGS _| | | (1840 - 1883) m 1866 | | | | ________________________ | | | | | | | _________________________|________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________| | | | | | | ________________________ | | | | | | |_________________________|________________________ | | |_Nellie F. LUCKINS __| (1864 - 1945) | | _Moses STAPLES _________+ | | (1753 - 1846) | _Joshua STAPLES _________|_Judith EATON __________ | | (1783 - 1861) m 1805 (1756 - 1843) | _Abel STAPLES _______| | | (1807 - 1846) m 1843| | | | _Josiah CLOSSON ________+ | | | | (1764 - 1850) | | |_Mary ("Polly") CLOSSON _|_Sarah ("Sally") TOBIN _ | | (1787 - 1866) m 1805 (1763 - 1850) |_Rosaltha STAPLES ________| (1845 - 1919) m 1866 | | ________________________ | | | _________________________|________________________ | | |_Caroline CAIN ______| (1823 - 1902) m 1843| | ________________________ | | |_________________________|________________________
[56996] Florence is daughter of Leslie Kane (1857-1933) & Nellie F. Luckins (1864-1945).
__ | __|__ | _John MAYO __________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _John MAYO __________| | (1598 - 1676) m 1618| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Samuel MAYO ________| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_Tamisen BRIKE ______| | (.... - 1682) m 1618| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Sarah MAYO | (1660 - 1745) | __ | | | __|__ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _William LUMPKIN ____| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |_____________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Thomasin LUMPKIN ___| (1626 - 1709) | | __ | | | __|__ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | |__|__
Jean Mayo-Lakatos
A second email in 2003 from Jean Mayo-Lakatos shared: "Sarah Mayo3 (Capt. Samuel2, Rev. John1): was born Dec. 19, 1660 in Boston, MA. She married Edmund Freeman, s/o John Freeman and Mercy Prence, ca. 1680 in Eastham, MA. This was Edmund's second marriage. She died before Mar. 5, 1746 in Eastham. Edmund Freeman was born in June, 1657 in Eastham. He married Ruth Merrick in Jan., 1677/78 in Barnstable, MA. He died Dec. 10, 1717 in Eastham at age 60 years. He is buried in the Ancient Cemetery or the Old Town Cove Burying Ground in Eastham, at the feet of his parents. He was a.k.a. Lt. Edmund Freeman. Known children of Sarah Mayo3 and Edmund Freeman were: a. Sarah: b.c. 1683; m. Benjamin Higgins. b. Isaac: b.c. 1685; m. Bethiah Sturgis ca. 1710; he d. bef. 1735...in the time period of between 1718 when he administered his father's estate and 1735, when his widow remarried. c. Ebenezer: b.c. 1686; m. Abigail Young. d. Mary: b.c. 1688; m. Samuel Hinckley. e. Experience: b.c. 1690; m. Thomas Gross bef. 1718; she d.c. 1720; her spouse remarried in 1721. f. Mercy: b.c. 1691; m. Thomas Cobb. g. Thankful: b.c. 1693; m. Jonathan Snow Oct. 16, 1718 in Eastham. Jonathan Snow was b. Jan. 30, 1692 in Eastham. He d. in Rochester, MA. . . .. Elizabeth: b.c. 1695; m. Isaac Pepper Feb. 21, 1716/17 in Eastham. Isaac Pepper was s/o Isaac Pepper and d. bef. 1737; Elizabeth wasn't mentioned in her mother's will of 1737 either. i. Hannah: b.c. 1697; m. Christian Remick. j. Edmund: b.c. 1701; m. Lois Paine; m. Sarah Sparrow. k. Rachel: b.c. 1703; m. Thomas Gray. (Note: The Mayo Book has further information concerning the children above named: Sarah, Ebenezer, Mary, Mercy, Hannah, Edmund, and Rachel Freeman.)
_James WHITCOMB _____+ | (1668 - 1728) m 1694 _Nathaniel WHITCOMB _______|_Mary PARKER ________ | (1697 - 1771) m 1738 (1667 - 1729) _Lot WHITCOMB _________| | (1739 - 1797) m 1762 | | | _John BLACKMORE _____ | | | (1669 - ....) m 1700 | |_Phoebe BLACKMAN __________|_Anna BRANCH ________ | (1704 - ....) m 1738 (1670 - 1711) _Lot WHITCOMB _______| | (.... - 1867) m 1796| | | _Ichabod NYE ________ | | | (1689 - 1735) | | _Samuel NYE _______________|_Elisabeth BONUM ____ | | | (1714 - ....) (1684 - 1776) | |_Lydia NYE ____________| | (1744 - 1831) m 1762 | | | _____________________ | | | | |___________________________|_____________________ | _James Eri WHITCOMB _| | (1804 - 1875) m 1859| | | _Daniel CHAMBERLAIN _+ | | | (1671 - 1725) | | _Thomas CHAMBERLAIN _______|_____________________ | | | (1703 - 1764) m 1730 | | _Increase CHAMBERLAIN _| | | | (1741 - 1813) m 1763 | | | | | _Daniel PIERCE ______+ | | | | | (1676 - 1754) m 1795 | | | |_Abigail PIERCE ___________|_Dinah HOLT _________ | | | (1706 - 1769) m 1730 (1681 - 1738) | |_Azubah CHAMBERLAIN _| | (1778 - 1858) m 1796| | | _Samuel DAVIS _______+ | | | (1669 - 1739) | | _Amos DAVIS _______________|_____________________ | | | (1705 - 1794) m 1727 | |_Rachel DAVIS _________| | (1739 - 1813) m 1763 | | | _John CHAPMAN _______+ | | | (1676 - 1750) | |_Elizabeth CHAPMAN ________|_____________________ | (1704 - 1764) m 1727 | |--Julius Rogers WHITCOMB | (1865 - 1866) | _Hezekiah WHITCOMB __+ | | (1707 - ....) m 1729 | _Jonathan Priest WHITCOMB _|_Rachel PRIEST ______ | | (1741 - 1771) (1713 - 1747) | _John WHITCOMB ________| | | (1765 - 1848) m 1792 | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_Tamar ROSS _______________|_____________________ | | (1745 - ....) | _John (Jr) WHITCOMB _| | | (1794 - 1887) m 1817| | | | _____________________ | | | | | | | _Nathaniel WOODWARD _______|_____________________ | | | | (1743 - 1823) m 1766 | | |_Rebecca WOODWARD _____| | | (1769 - 1843) m 1792 | | | | _William WITHINGTON _+ | | | | (1715 - 1793) | | |_Elizabeth WITHINGTON _____|_Sarah LOCKE ________ | | (1741 - 1812) m 1766 (1719 - 1797) |_Lucy A. WHITCOMB ___| (1794 - 1887) m 1859| | _Ebenezer PERRY _____+ | | (1708 - 1790) m 1741 | _Abijah PERRY _____________|_Abigail RUSSELL ____ | | (1742 - 1819) m 1765 (1718 - 1791) | _Tryphena PERRY _______| | | (1771 - 1810) m 1793 | | | | _John BOUTWELL ______+ | | | | (1695 - 1793) | | |_Phebe BOUTELLE ___________|_Rebecca KNIGHT _____ | | (1741 - 1830) m 1765 (1703 - 1794) |_Tryphena HOLT ______| (1795 - 1867) m 1817| | _Joseph HOLT ________ | | (1718 - 1789) | _Joseph HOLT ______________|_Dorothy JOHNSON ____ | | (1745 - 1832) (1719 - 1753) |_Joseph HOLT __________| (1772 - 1810) m 1793 | | _John DALE __________ | | (1718 - 1789) |_Betty DALE _______________|_Mary ELLENWOOD _____ (1746 - 1821) (1725 - 1789)
[14773] His name is also found Justus Rogers Whitcomb.