[30195] See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_of_Podebrady
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| |_Alis STOVER ______________|
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| | |_Bathsheba STODDER __|_Lois SYLVESTER _____
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| _David (Jr.) DUNBAR _______|
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(1781 - 1867) m 1802 |
| _Rodolphus ELMES ____+
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| _Jonathan ELMS ______|_Catherine WHITCOMB _
| | (1663 - 1742) m 1693 (1624 - 1668)
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|_Elizabeth ELMS ___________|
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| _Nathaniel SUTTON ___|_Elizabeth HOUSE ____
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|_Elizabeth SUTTON __________________|
(1711 - 1783) m 1732 |
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|_Margaret RAY _______|_Elizabeth FOSTER ___
(1683 - 1712) m 1709 (1667 - 1676)
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| |_Josceline DE PONT-AUDEMER ________________|
| (.... - 1068) |
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| (1022 - 1094)
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| _Yves de Bellême, Comte D'ALENçON _|_____________________________
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| _Guillaume I Talvas, seigneur d'Alençon, Bellême et PERCHE _|
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| | | _Hugues I, Vicomte DE MAINE _
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| _Guillaume II Talvas, Seigneur D'ALENçON _|
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(.... - 1079) |
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(1005 - 1067) |
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[2260] Roger held numerous properties and titles; he ruled Normandy in the absence of William the Conqueror, 1066+. He was also Earl of Shrewsbury in Britain and held numerous other titles. {-see "Falaise Roll," M.J.Crispin (1938), p.100-01.} Roger was the first Earl of Sussex {(per "Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, I:138-9)}- his grants from William the Conqueror included much of Sussex (including Chichester and the castle and honor of Arundel) and lands in Shropshire with the castles of Shrewsbury and Montgomery. His titles were forfeit to the crown when his son Robert was attainted in 1102; the estates were then conferred by Henry I on his 2nd wife Adelicia [ID2950], who after Henry I died m. William d'Aubigny. (Also see (May, 1999) Web site http://infokey.com/Domesday/Shropshire.htm and http://www.aritek.com/hartgen/htm/montgomery.htm and "Medieval Wales" by David Walker, Cambridge University Press.) http://www.castlewales.com/roger_m.html offers in 2003: "King William (William the Conqueror) turned to another close friend and advisor, Roger of Montgomery, to control the middle range of the frontier (between England and Wales), and he built up a strong feudal enclave centred on his new castle of Shrewsbury. He consolidated his hold on land which was technically within England but not firmly under English control. He moved into territory which was unmistakably Welsh and which passed into the hands of his military tenants. Picot de Say was established at Clun; the family of Tournai at Kinnersley, Reginald de Bailleul had his principal castle at Maesbury, and his lands became the lordship of Oswestry. The Corbets were masters of Caus, east and south of Shrewsbury." See and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotrou_III_of_Perche. and "A genealogical history of the family of Montgomery, including the Montgomery pedigree," Thomas Harrison Montgomery (Philadelphia, Printed for private circulation [H.B. Ashmead, printer] 1863), pp. 13ff (availale on Google Books). Cf. http://fitzmaurice.info/ances.html and "Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans," Carl Boyer III (Santa Clarita, CA, 2001), p. 162, and http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Dictionary_of_National_Biography_volume_28.djvu/166.
[54922] Dorcas is said to be daughter of Elisha Eldredge, Jr. (1690-1754) & Dorcas Mulford (1693-1755).
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See "Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans," Carl Boyer III (Santa Clarita, CA, 2001), p. 97.
http://www.freewebz.com/powys/pl_tree/ps19/ps19_079.htm reports: "A rebel baron, excommunicated in 1215. Of Whittington, Shropshire and Alveston, Glos."
Robert Brian Stewart of Heidelberg, Germany posted at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/p325.htm: "Fulke Fitzwarin was born about 1169 in Hertfordshire, England. The book by Maurine Keen, 'The Outlaws of Medieval Legend', includes a chapter on the story of the Romance of Fulke Fitzwarin, and several chapters on the Robin Hood ballads. Fulke was married to Maude le Vavasour. The true-life story of Maude's relationship with Fulke Fitzwarin is very similar to the legend of Robin Hood and Maid Marian. Maudes parents were Sir Robert le Vavasour and Julian de Ros."
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A post by John P. Ravilious 4 May 2003 in GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives offers:
The current account in CP concerning Fulk FitzWarin 'III' [1] is compressed into a footnote initially concerned with Sir Fulk FitzWarin (d. 14 May 1254), father of Sir Fulk FitzWarin of Whittington, Salop, 1st Lord FitzWarin:
'He was s. and h. of Fulk fitz Warin of Whittington (living Oct. 1250), who m., 1stly, Maud, widow of Theobald Walter, and da. of Robert le Vavasur (Patent Roll, 9 Joh., m. 5; Fine Roll, mm. II, 8) and, 2ndly, Clarice Dauberville (Fine Roll, 34 Hen. III, m. 2; Chron. of Fulk FitzWarin, p. 410.' [2]
A long-running discourse is to be found in CP, on SGM and elsewhere on the identification of individuals named Fulk FitzWarin, and (as noted esp. on SGM) the lack of certainty concerning these identifications. In particular, the chronology concerning Fulk 'III' and his son Fulk 'IV' has caused considerable confusion, consternation and frequent error. While I do not concur with her final determination on this point, Janet Meisel correctly states on this subject, 'Although the records of the thirteenth century give a surprisingly clear picture of Fulk III's life, they give an even more surprisingly muddled picture of his death. Unlikely though it may seem, it is impossible to determine the date of Fulk's death with anything approaching certainty.' [3]
The confusion in large part emanates from two sources:
A. The Chronicle of Fulk FitzWarin, which states that Clarice d'Auberville was the 2nd wife of Fulk 'III' [4]. [the Chronicle is specifically cited as one of the sources used in CP V:495(c)].
B. Sir William Dugdale, who also used the Chronicle (in a manuscript collection he cited as 'Lel. Coll. Vol. I', using pp. 261 through 269) together with other sources, and unfortunately managed to combine Fulk 'III' and 'IV' together as evidenced by his writing,' This Fulke married a second Wife called Clarice; and in 48 Hen. 3 being in the Battle of Lewes, on the Kings part; was there drowned in the adjacent River; leaving issue Fulke his Son and Heir, and a Daughter called Eve, who became the second Wife to Lewelin Prince of Wales.' [5]
There are two sources of information, hitherto unknown or unrecognized, which provide sufficient details as to resolve the confusion, and to provide a basis for reconstructing the FitzWarin pedigree [6].
1. Narborough, co. Leics. was a part of the maritagium of Maud le Vavasour, concerning which there is significant documentation. Concerning this, we know that Maud le Vavasour must have died before 1226, by which time Hawise FitzWarin (daughter of Fulk 'III' and Maud le Vavsour) and her husband William Pantulf were holding Narborough as part of her maritagium. At that time, her half-brother Theobald Walter brought a suit of 'mort d' ancestor' to recover the manor, which was not ultimately successful [7].
Concerning the market at Narborough, co. Leics. for which Fulk 'III' had a charter from King Henry III in 1219, and to which his right was reinstated in 1220 [8], this apparently fell in disuse, possibly as a result of the suit of Theobald Walter in 1226. There is record of the revival of the market in 1235 for Hubert Huse, the second husband of Hawise FitzWarin (William Pantulf d. in 1233) in the Close Rolls, as follows:
'On 22 Nov 1235, K Hen III granted Hubert Hues that the market which was accustomed to be held at the manor, which was formerly held by Fulk fitz Warin, deceased, was to be revived and to be held as before on Tues. Mandate to the sh of Leicestershire to proclaim the market and cause it to be held (CR, 1234-7, p. 210).' [9]
We have then a contemporaneous statement that the Fulk FitzWarin who held this market (the earliest grant of which to one 'Fulk FitzWarin was in 1219) was deceased on or before 22 November 1235, to the knowledge of the King and his court. As closely involved as Fulk 'III' had been with the King (cf. Meisel, pp. 41-51), and given that the manor of Narborough was only brought into the FitzWarin family by the marriage of Maud le Vavasour to Fulk 'III' no later than 1 October 1207, we can then be confident that Fulk 'III' was in fact the deceased individual referred to in the Close Roll entry.
2. Clarice d'Auberville is identified in the 'Chronicle of Fulk FitzWarin' as the second wife of Fulk 'III', which identification is taken up by the CP account referenced above. This has been relatively consistently reflected, from the 'Chronicle' (14th century) through Dugdale [10], with one noted exception. Ivor West, in discussing a number of issues concerning individuals surnamed FitzWarin/FitzWarine, noted the placement of Clarice d'Auberville in an older version of CP as wife of Fulk 'IV' and mother of Fulk 'V' [11].
The answer as to the correct placement is provided in part by an entry in the records of King's Bench from 1249, which Meisel stated was "so peculiar that I quote it in its entirety. 'Fulk Fitz Warin acknowledges that he gave, conceded and by his charter confirmed to Mabil, his daughter, for homage and her service, his entire manor of Lambourn with all appurtenances, to have and hold for herself and the heirs of her body of Fulk and his heirs freely, quietly, etc., saving religious service, as is described in his charter.' "[12]
Meisel did not understand that this was Mabel, wife first of William de Crevequer, and secondly of John de Tregoz [13], who was clearly 'marriageable'; she further was unaware that Lambourn was in fact carried by Mabel FitzWarin as her maritagium, and that the manor (or a moiety thereof) is known to have been carried by Sybil de Tregoz, daughter of Mabel FitzWarin, to her marriage to Sir William de Grandison, 1st Lord Grandison [14].
It is clear, however, that Mabel was the daughter of a Fulk FitzWarin who was alive in 1249, as evidenced by the record provided by Meisel as noted above. Given that Fulk 'IV' had received the manor of Edlington, co. Yorks. as part of his inheritance and defended same successfully in 1252 against a suit by John le Vavasour, it is clear that he was the son of Maud le Vavasour and not another wife of Fulk 'III' (if Fulk 'III' indeed had another wife) [15]. Further, since Fulk 'III' had died in 1235 or before, it was Fulk 'IV' who was the father of Mabel, subsequently wife of William de Crevequer and John de Tregoz, as evidenced by this record of 1249. Mabel FitzWarin had two daughters and coheiresses by her second husband John de Tregoz: the eldest, Clarice, wife of Sir Roger la Warre (lst Lord La Warre, or de la Warr), and the youngest, Sybil, wife of Sir William, lst Lord Grandison. The younger, Sybil, was given a family name of the Tregoz family (Sybil de Ewyas, heiress of Ewyas Harold, was grandmother of John de Tregoz).
The name Clarice, given to the elder daughter, is onomastic evidence that Mabel FitzWarin was the daughter of Clarice d'Auberville: based on the chronological facts, she could in fact not have been the daughter of Constance de Tosny [16].
Fulk 'III' is typically placed as being born in 1178 or before, and living at least until October 1250 [17], and even is placed by Meisel as living later, that he 'probably died in the spring or early summer of 1258'. Writers have either not noted the alleged advanced age of Fulk (say 72 or more in 1250, and possibly over 80 in 1258), or indicated surprise at his activity at that age [18].
We can now clarify the basic reason for the confusion. Fulk 'III' died in 1235 or shortly before, aged say 56 (assuming a birth date of 1178, as per Meisel) or slightly older; references to Fulk FitzWarin or Fulk FitzWarin 'senior' from that date until the battle of Evesham (1264) therefore refer to his son Fulk 'IV', aged say 26 or slightly older at his father's death in 1235; say 40 years of age or so at the time of granting the maritagium of his daughter Mabel in 1249; and no more than 56 at the time of his death at Evesham.
The FitzWarin family therefore is properly reconstructed as follows:
1) Theobald = bef 1200 Maud le = 2) Fulk 'III' FitzWarin
Walter I (19) Vavasor I bef 1 Oct 1207
d. bef 14 I I d. ca. 1235
Feb 1205/6 I __________I
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I I I
Theobald Walter Hawise Fulk 'IV' = 1) Clarice = 2)Constance
b. ca. 1200 =1) bef 1226 FitzWarin I d'Auberville I de Tosny
of Boxted, William b.say F) I (20) I m. after
Suffolk & c. Pantulf 1208 I I 1238
(19) 2) Hubert k. 1264 I I (20)
Huse I I
I I
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I I
Mabel FitzWarin = 1) William de Fulk 'V' FitzWarin
Crevequer b. 14 Sept 1251
= 2) John de = Margaret de la
I Tregoz Pole
I I
V V
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I
Fulk FitzWarin
b. 1251;
= before 25 Feb
`176/7 Margaret
de la Pole (G)
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NOTES
[1] For purposes of relating this discussion to prior posts and publications, the following designations are adhered to (with the caveat that no such numbering system was known to have been used in the 12th/13th centuries):
Fulk 'I' FitzWarin held to have been the 'son of Warin', m. Eve; d. ca. 1171
Fulk 'II' of Whittington, co. Salop & c.; m. Hawise, dau. and coheiress of Josce de Dinan [Lambourn, co. Berks. was her maritagium or inheritance]; d. after Nov. 1194
Fulk 'III' of Whittington, co. Salop., Lambourn, co. Berks. & c.; noted marcher baron and adversary of King John, and (largely) the subject of the 'Chronicle of Fulk FitzWarin'; m. before 1 Oct 1207 Maud, dau. and heiress of Robert le Vavasour and widow of Theobald Walter 'I'
Fulk 'IV' of Whittington, co. Salop.; supporter of King Henry III against Simon de Montfort; m. Constance de Tony/Tosny; k. in escaping from Battle of Lewes,(drowned), 14 May 1264
Fulk 'V' of Whittington, co. Salop; b. 14 Sept 1251; m. bef 25 Feb 1276/7 to Margaret 'de la Pole', dau. of Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn of Powys (d. 1286); summoned to Parliament from 24 June 1295 to 16 Oct 1315 by writs directed 'Fulconi filio Warini', thereby held to have become 1st Lord FitzWarin; d. 24 Nov 1315
[2] CP, Vol. V - FitzWarin, p. 495, note (c).
[3] Janet Meisel, Barons of the Welsh Frontier: The Corbet, Pantulf and Fitz Warin Families, 1066-1272, p. 50.
[4] Various renditions of 'The Chronicle of Fulk FitzWarin' are to be found in Internet sources. Much of the tale is taken into the text of Dugdale's account of the career of Fulk 'III' FitzWarin (see reference below).
[5] Dugdale, Baronage of England (London: Thomas Newcomb, 1675 [reprint New York: Georg Verlag, 1977], Fitz-Warine: pp. 443-5.
[6] The generally accepted structure of the family, as of this writing, would appear as follows:
[I] [II]
1) Theobald = bef 1200 Maud le = 2) Fulk FitzWarin = Clarice Walter I Vavasor I bef 1 Oct 1207 d'Auberville
d. bef 14 I I
Feb 1205/6 I I
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I I I
Theobald Walter Hawise Fulk FitzWarin = Constance
b. ca. 1200 = bef 1226 k. at Lewes I de Tosny
of Boxted, Suffolk William I b. say
& c. Pantulf I 1233/35
I
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I I
Fulk FitzWarin Mabel = 1) William
b. 1251; de Crevequer
= before 25 Feb = 2) John
`176/7 Margaret de Tregoz
de la Pole
[7] Meisel, pp. 98-99.
[8] Meisel, p. 98.
[9] Close Rolls of the Reign of Henry III (1227-1272), Vol. II p. 210, as cited in the Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs: www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz
[10] Dugdale, Baronage ,p. 445.
[11] The lack of clarity in distinguishing between the various Fulks FitzWarin is nothing new to members of SGM; a review of the archives will suffice to bear this out. CP also has had issues in this regard . . . noted below by Ivor West -
'Message 5 in thread
From: Ivor West
Subject: Re: FitzWarine - Argentan
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2003-02-21 08:29:50 PST
I think I have it worked out now, thanks to J.J. Alexander's paper on the early owners of Merton, (DCNQ, xx, 256).
Reverting to Clarice de Auberville: on looking at an older version of CP, I notice that she is attributed as wife to Fulk fitzWarin, d.1264. If it isn't shown as such in the current edition, presumably they have back-tracked for some reason or have left it indeterminate. It goes:
"Fulk fitz-Warine, of Whittington and Alberbury, co.Salop., s.and h. of Fulk F. of the same, by Clarice [presumably de Auberville] his wife, suc. his father (who was slain, ex Parte Regis, in the battle of Lewes), 14 May 1264...", which seems to sideline Constance de Toeni.
If this is the correct scenario, Mabel becomes the full sister of Fulk, 1251 - 1315, rather than a half-sister, but the age discontinuity, with Mabel born c1225, would remain.
[12] Meisel, p. 96.
[13] Meisel argued that the grant of Lambourn to a daughter of Fulk 'III' was 'patently absurd', and that Mabil 'must have been unmarriageable, for most of Fulk's children were married in the 1220s' [p. 96].
[14] CP, under Tregoz, and Grandison.
[15] Meisel, p. 99.
[16] Constance de Tosny was born most likely between July 1233 and Jan. 1236/7: 1. Her parents, Ralph (VI) de Tosny and Petronilla de Lacy, were married after October 1232 (CP Vol XII-Tony). A birthdate of July 1233 would be the earliest reasonable date, but we do not know that such a birth occurred, or that Constance was necessarily the eldest child (surviving or otherwise). 2. Fulk, son of Constance by Fulk FitzWarin, was born 14 September
1251 (CP Vol V-FitzWarin, p. 495). Assuming the conventions of the age were observed, Constance was aged 14 or more at the time of conception: therefore, a date of January 1236/7 would be the latest presumable (although not theoretical) birthdate for Constance. Her father, Roger de Tosny, d. 1239 (CP) at sea, while on Crusade. His actual departure date from England is not known, but this was most likely in the summer of 1239 (Runciman, History of the Crusades III:211-2). There could have been no issue of the marriage of Roger de Tosny and Petronilla de Lacy, posthumous or otherwise, after early 1240.
At the time of Fulk 'IV' FitzWarin's grant of the manor of Lambourn to Mabel FitzWarin in 1249, evidently as her maritagium, Fulk himself was no more than 41 years of age; Constance de Tosny, no more than 16 years of age, and possibly less. Working backward from the terminus of the estimated birth date for Clarice de Tregoz (no later than Jan 1261/2), the birthdate for Mabel FitzWarin was no later than April 1247 (assuming she was at least 14 at the time of conception for Clarice). As Constance de Tosny was most likely aged 13 or less in April 1247, the mother of Mabel FitzWarin had then to be a previous wife of Fulk 'IV' FitzWarin.
[17] Fulk was 'almost certainly a young man in his twenties when he succeeded his father in 1198' (Meisel, p. 36). As to his being alive in October 1250, see CP Vol V, p. 495, note (c), as discussed above.
[18] Meisel, pp. 50-51.
[19] Theobald, son of Theobald Walter and Maud le Vavasor, was aged 6 at his father's IPM (14 Feb 1205/6), therefore 1. The son was most likely born before March 1200, and 2. Theobald Walter and Maud le Vavasor were most likely married in 1199, or before.
[20] For the identification of Clarice d'Auberville as lst wife, and mother of Mabel FitzWarin, see note [16] above. As to Constance de Tosny as 2nd wife, and mother of Fulk 'V' FitzWarin, see CP Vol. V (FitzWarin), p. 495 note (d).
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_James Hudson HUTCHINS _|_Hannah CLEMENT _______
| (1833 - 1869) (1812 - 1901)
_Charles O. HUTCHINS __________|
| (1859 - 1935) m 1881 |
| | _Alfred M. HUTCHINGS __+
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| |_Edith A. HUTCHINGS ____|_Sarah Ann WARDWELL ___
| (1840 - 1925) (1804 - 1843)
_Lloyd Arthur HUTCHINS ______|
| (1899 - 1975) |
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| | _John Orin EASTMAN _____|_______________________
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| |_Jeannette ("Nettie") EASTMAN _|
| (1863 - 1927) m 1881 |
| | _Peter Mograge LEACH __+
| | | (1802 - 1882) m 1829
| |_Margaret Ellen LEACH __|_Dorothy HUTCHINS _____
| (1844 - ....) m 1860 (1804 - 1844)
_Berwyn Hale HUTCHINS ___|
| (1925 - 1993) |
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| |_Marguerite Francis PERKINS _|
| (1902 - 1986) |
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| (1956 - 2021)
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[12931] "The Ellsworth American [Ellsworth, Maine]. 15 November 2021": "Susan Jean Hutchins of Penobscot passed away at home surrounded by her twin sister and nephews on Nov. 12, 2021, following a hard-fought battle with complications of multiple myeloma cancer. Sue was born April 26, 1956, at Castine Hospital, the daughter of Berwyn Hale and Natalie (Dodge) Hutchins of Penobscot. She was a 10th-generation Mainer and a lifelong resident of Penobscot. Sue graduated from George Stevens Academy in the Class of 1974. Shortly after that, Sue began her 47-year career at Maine Maritime Academy. Much of her time at MMA was in the finance and information technology departments, and due to declining health, she retired in 2021. Over those 47 years, she was truly thankful for the many lifelong friendships she made and the opportunities she was presented at such a great college. Sue also enjoyed time with her family: picnics and gatherings on Islesboro and watching her nephews and the 'grands' in their sports and activities. And its true that theres a special relationship between twins, and Sal and Sue experienced this during their lifetime. Even in those times when their opinions may have differed, they were there always to support each other. For those who knew Sue, she was always on the move. She loved the outdoors and spent thousands of hours maintaining her and her sisters home and property. She took much pride in maintaining immaculate lawns and vegetable gardens: there was never a blade of grass out of place, and you couldnt find a weed if you tried. She also got the biggest kick when total strangers would stop and tell her how beautiful the lawns were. She always had a paintbrush or a polish cloth in hand, making sure everything was in top form. Sue was predeceased by her dad, mom and older brother, Timothy P. Hutchins. She is survived by her twin sister, Sally Jo Hutchins of Penobscot, two very special nephews and their families - Eric O. Hutchins and his wife, Erin, and their daughters Ella and Layla of Brooksville and Ryan J. Hutchins and his wife, Amanda, and their sons Mackie and Augie of Falmouth, and many cousins and families on the Hutchins and Dodge sides of the family. Sue also loved cats, and she was predeceased by her most recent kitty of 19 years, Dusty."
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| _Henry HOLLENBAUGH ___|_____________________
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| | | _George (Jr) ARNOLD _
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| | |_Catherine E. ARNOLD _|_Catherine BREINER __
| | (.... - 1870) (.... - 1836)
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[39182] Ancestry.com offers: "Roberts Name Meaning - English: patronymic from the personal name Robert. This surname is very frequent in Wales and west central England."
[38055] "History of Franklin County" (1887) states Samuel is son of Christian Shearer (a blacksmith) and Susan Probst, and that Samuel and Harriet lived in Juniata Co., PA and Path Valley, Shade Gap (Huntingdon Co., PA) and finally in Spring Run, Franklin Co., PA - he farmed in addition to being a tanner and was a member of the United Brethren in Christ Church. Their children are listed in the county history.
_Richard DE TALBOT _____________+
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| | _Thomas BASSET _________________
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| | _Allan BASSET _______________________|_Adeliza DE DUNSTANVILLE _______
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| |_Aliva BASSET __________________|
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| |_Aline DE GAI _______________________|________________________________
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| | _Rhys FYCHAN ________________________|_Gwenllian ferch MADOG _________
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| | _Rhys Mechyll, Lord of DYNEVOR _|
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| |_Gwenthlian MECHYLL ___|
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| _Geoffrey DE MANDEVILLE ________+
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| _William Fitz Geoffrey DE BEAUCHAMP _|_Matilda de Biden DE ROCHEFORT _
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| | |_Olive BEAUCHAMP ____________________|________________________________
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| _William MAUDUIT _______________|
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| | (.... - 1153)
| _Waleran DE NEWBURGH ________________|_Gundred DE WARENNE ____________
| | (1140 - 1204)
|_Alice DE NEWBURGH _____________|
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| _Robert DE HARCOURT ____________+
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|_Alice HARCOURT _____________________|_Milicent ("Isabel") CAMVILLE __
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| (1884 - 1973) m 1903 |
| | _Charles (The "Patriot") HUTCHINS _+
| | | (1742 - 1834) m 1764
| | _James HUTCHINS _____________|_Mary PERKINS _____________________
| | | (1782 - 1860) m 1804 (1745 - 1797)
| | _Joel W. HUTCHINS ___|
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| | | | _Peletiah LEACH ___________________+
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| | | |_Mary LEACH _________________|_Mary GRINDLE _____________________
| | | (1787 - 1864) m 1804 (1765 - 1839)
| |_Agnes HUTCHINS _______________|
| (1852 - 1933) |
| | _Peletiah LEACH ___________________+
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| | _Ebenezer LEACH _____________|_Mary GRINDLE _____________________
| | | (1789 - 1863) m 1816 (1765 - 1839)
| |_Clarissa LEACH _____|
| (1817 - 1898) m 1836|
| | _Samuel WARDWELL __________________+
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| |_Clarissa WARDWELL __________|_Mary ("Polly") BANKS _____________
| (1796 - 1867) m 1816 (1772 - 1862)
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| _Daniel (Jr.) WARDWELL ____________+
| | (1760 - 1844) m 1778
| _Taylor WARDWELL ____________|_Mary HUTCHINS ____________________
| | (1801 - 1860) m 1824 (1770 - 1835)
| _Benson H. WARDWELL _|
| | (1825 - 1903) m 1858|
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| | |_Sarah DUNBAR _______________|_Elizabeth ("Betsy") HORN _________
| | (1804 - ....) m 1824 (1770 - 1855)
| _Sumner F. WARDWELL ___________|
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| | | _Peletiah LEACH ___________________+
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| | | _Daniel LEACH _______________|_Mary GRINDLE _____________________
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| | |_Mary LEACH _________|
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| | | _Jairus DUNBAR ____________________+
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| | |_Eliza DUNBAR _______________|_Hannah ATKINS ____________________
| | (1812 - 1889) m 1828
|_Mary Ellen WARDWELL _____|
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| _David (Jr.) DUNBAR _______________+
| | (1756 - 1841) m 1779
| _Jairus DUNBAR ______________|_Elizabeth ELMS ___________________
| | (1784 - 1856) m 1826 (1743 - ....)
| _Elisha DUNBAR ______|
| | (1837 - 1905) m 1856|
| | | _Peletiah LEACH ___________________+
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| | |_Hannah LEACH _______________|_Mary GRINDLE _____________________
| | (1799 - 1891) m 1826 (1765 - 1839)
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| _William WARDWELL _________________+
| | (1780 - 1830) m 1798
| _Ebenezer ("Eben") WARDWELL _|_Deborah LITTLEFIELD ______________
| | (.... - 1882) m 1832 (1777 - ....)
|_Ellen M. WARDWELL __|
(.... - 1873) m 1856|
| _William HUTCHINGS ________________+
| | (1764 - 1866) m 1786
|_Lovinia HUTCHINGS __________|_Mercy ("Mary?") WARDWELL _________
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[48307] Emery's wife, Charlotte A. _____ (1911-1967), is buried with him.