__ | __|__ | _Raynold ALEXANDER ___| | (.... - 1789) | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Robert ALEXANDER ___| | (.... - 1815) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_Margaret MCCLELLAND _| | (1716 - ....) | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _George McConnell ALEXANDER _| | (1780 - 1856) m 1811 | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | _George MCCONNELL ____| | | | (1727 - 1783) | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_Margaret MCCONNELL _| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_Margaret WALLACE ____| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Martha ALEXANDER | (1814 - 1881) | __ | | | __|__ | | | ______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Agnes (or Nancy) STEWART ___| (1783 - 1857) m 1811 | | __ | | | __|__ | | | ______________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |______________________| | | __ | | |__|__
[46026] This line is from the unverified tree in 2020 in familysearch.org - see file KH7L-FNF.
_John I, King of Castile and LéON _+ | (1358 - 1390) m 1375 _Ferdinand, King of Aragon And SICILY _|_Eleanor of ARAGON _________________ | (1379 - 1416) m 1394 (1358 - 1382) _Alfonso V, King of Aragon And SICILY ________| | (1394 - 1458) | | | _Sancho, 1st Count of ALBURQUERQUE _+ | | | (1342 - 1375) m 1373 | |_Eleanor of ALBURQUERQUE ______________|_Beatrice of PORTUGAL ______________ | (1374 - 1435) m 1394 (.... - 1381) _Ferdinand I, King of NAPLES _| | (1423 - 1494) m 1444 | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | | |_Giraldona CARLINO ___________________________| | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________ | _Alfonso II of NAPLES __| | (1448 - 1495) m 1465 | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | | | _Bartholomew ("Tristan") DE CLERMONT-LODèVE _| | | | (1380 - ....) | | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | | | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | | |_Isabella of CLERMONT ________| | (.... - 1465) m 1444 | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | | |_Catherine del Balzo ORSINI __________________| | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________ | | |--Isabella of ARAGON | (1470 - 1524) | ____________________________________ | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | ______________________________________________| | | | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | ______________________________| | | | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | | | | |______________________________________________| | | | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________ | | |_Ippolita Maria SFORZA _| (1446 - 1484) m 1465 | | ____________________________________ | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | | ______________________________________________| | | | | | | ____________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________ | | |______________________________| | | ____________________________________ | | | _______________________________________|____________________________________ | | |______________________________________________| | | ____________________________________ | | |_______________________________________|____________________________________
[41926] See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_Aragon,_Duchess_of_Milan
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _John BORDEN ________| | (1640 - 1716) | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Richard BORDEN _____| | (1671 - 1732) m 1692| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | | __| | | | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |__|__ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Thomas BORDEN | (1697 - 1740) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | __|__ | | | | | | |__| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Innocent CORNELL ___| (1674 - 1720) m 1692| | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
[41038] The unverified Barbara McDonald Family Tree in Ancestry.com in 2016 offers: "When Thomas Borden was born on December 8, 1697, in Tiverton, Rhode Island, his father, Richard, was 26 and his mother, Innocent, was 22. He married Mary Gifford on August 14, 1721, in his hometown. They had 10 children in 11 years. He died in April 1740 in Tiverton, Rhode Island, at the age of 42. . . . Mary Gifford was born on October 6, 1695, in Sandwich, Massachusetts. She married Thomas Borden on August 14, 1721, in Tiverton, Rhode Island. They had 10 children in 11 years. . . ."
__________________________ | _George Michael BREINER ___________|__________________________ | (.... - 1782) _John Frederick BREINER ___| | (1762 - 1824) | | | _Mathias (Lei, Ley?) LOY _ | | | (1706 - 1783) | |_Catharina Magdalena (Ley or) LOY _|_Anna Maria DAY __________ | (1742 - 1806) (1711 - 1786) _Johannes BRINER ______| | (1786 - 1863) | | | __________________________ | | | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | | | |___________________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |___________________________________|__________________________ | _Henry BRINER _______| | (1821 - 1866) m 1843| | | __________________________ | | | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | | | | ___________________________| | | | | | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | | | |___________________________________|__________________________ | | | | |_Maria Elizabeth LOEB _| | (1788 - 1863) | | | __________________________ | | | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | | | |___________________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |___________________________________|__________________________ | | |--Lydia ("Lidy") BRINER | (1850 - 1936) | __________________________ | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | | _Johannes KREGLO __________| | | (1763 - 1830) | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |___________________________________|__________________________ | | | _John CRAIGLOW ________| | | (1788 - 1864) m 1818 | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | | | | | |_Marie Cahterine HEPPERLY _| | | (1766 - 1830) | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |___________________________________|__________________________ | | |_Lydia Ann CRAIGLOW _| (1818 - 1884) m 1843| | __________________________ | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | | ___________________________| | | | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |___________________________________|__________________________ | | |_Hannah LOCK __________| (1798 - 1860) m 1818 | | __________________________ | | | ___________________________________|__________________________ | | |___________________________| | | __________________________ | | |___________________________________|__________________________
[54343] The unverified file KT3V-Z74 in familysearch.org offers: "When Lydia Lidy Briner was born on 21 August 1850, in Jackson Township, Richland, Ohio, United States, her father, Henry Briner, was 29 and her mother, Lydia Ann Craiglow, was 31. She married Samuel G. Bricker on 20 February 1868, in Richland, Ohio, United States. They were the parents of at least 5 sons and 7 daughters. She lived in Adrian, Lenawee, Michigan, United States for about 10 years and Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States in 1930. She died in 1936, at the age of 86." She and Samuel had Henry Tobias Bricker (1868-1942), Clara A. Bricker (1870-1925), George Elmore Bricker (b. in 1871), Cora M. Bricker (1873-1940), James Floyd Bricker (1875-1903), Sylvina Bricker (b. in 1878), Levi Bricker (b. in1880), Alice Bricker (b. in 1883), Della R. Bricker (1888-1986), Earl Laverne Bricker (1889-1934) & Laura Bricker (1892-1955).
_Peter (Coffyn or) COFFIN _+ | (.... - 1628) m 1608 _Tristram COFFIN ____|_Joan KEMBER ______________ | (.... - 1681) (1584 - 1661) _John COFFIN ________| | (1647 - 1711) m 1668| | | _Robert STEVENS ___________+ | | | (1563 - 1627) | |_Dionis STEVENS _____|___________________________ | (1610 - 1682) _Enoch COFFIN _______| | (1678 - 1761) m 1700| | | ___________________________ | | | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | | | |_Deborah AUSTIN _____| | (1647 - 1718) m 1668| | | ___________________________ | | | | |_____________________|___________________________ | _Daniel COFFIN ______| | (1721 - 1789) | | | ___________________________ | | | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | | | |_____________________|___________________________ | | | | |_Beulah EDDY ________| | (1680 - ....) m 1700| | | ___________________________ | | | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | ___________________________ | | | | |_____________________|___________________________ | | |--Mary COFFIN | (1750 - 1810) | ___________________________ | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|___________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________| | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|___________________________ | | |_Mary HARLOCK _______| (1727 - 1767) | | ___________________________ | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ___________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|___________________________ | | |_____________________| | | ___________________________ | | | _____________________|___________________________ | | |_____________________| | | ___________________________ | | |_____________________|___________________________
[12812]
[S2]
LDS Church's Ancestral File - not verified.
_________________________ | _____________________|_________________________ | _____________________| | | | | _________________________ | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | _Archibald DOUGLAS __| | (.... - 1333) | | | _________________________ | | | | | _____________________|_________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | _________________________ | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | _William DOUGLAS ____| | (.... - 1384) | | | _________________________ | | | | | _____________________|_________________________ | | | | | _____________________| | | | | | | | | _________________________ | | | | | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | | | | |_Beatrice LINDSAY ___| | | | | _________________________ | | | | | _____________________|_________________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | _________________________ | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | | |--Joan DOUGLAS | | _John Stewart of BONKYL _+ | | (1246 - 1298) | _Alexander STEWART __|_________________________ | | (.... - 1319) | _John STEWART _______| | | (.... - 1331) | | | | _________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | | | _Thomas STEWART _____| | | (.... - 1361) m 1353| | | | _________________________ | | | | | | | _____________________|_________________________ | | | | | | |_Margaret ABERNETHY _| | | | | | | _________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | | |_Margaret STEWART ___| | | _________________________ | | | _____________________|_________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | _________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_________________________ | | |_Margaret ST. CLAIR _| m 1353 | | _________________________ | | | _____________________|_________________________ | | |_____________________| | | _________________________ | | |_____________________|_________________________
A 2009 posting by Jim _____ in GenForm.genealogy.com in reply to Carl _____ "Re: Joan Douglas wife of William Dacre c.1357-1399":
You're agreeing in large part with what I stated before (five + years ago), that there is no evident proof of this Joan's parentage-but also there's really no proof this particular Joan Douglas, as a wife of William de Dacre or daughter of James, Earl Douglas, ever existed at all. The problem stems from earlier derivative sources, The Visitations of Yorkshire for one (1563, 1564, William Flowers, 1881), which on p. 83 (chart) show the wife of William Dacre to be "doghter of therl Doglas" (sic). Also, the first edition of the Complete Peerage, vol. III (1890), p. 2 stated: "he m. Joan Douglas, said to have been an illegit. da. of James (Douglas), Earl Douglas [S.] He d. 20 July 1398."
This last excerpt was corrected in the second edition of the Complete Peerage, vol. IV, p. 6: ": He is said to have m. (g) Joan Douglas.(s) He m. Mary…(i)"
Note in the corrected version the subtle "he is said to have" (as in rumored to have) versus the statement he married Mary (unknown). Unfortunately, information, good or bad, once released seems to develop a life of its own. The footnotes (g) and (i) provide more clarification as to the identity of his wife:
"(g) Record as on p. i, note " d." Genealogists add that Joan was illegit. da. of James, Earl of Douglas. But if so (and if she were the mother of the heir), this
worthy, b. about 1358, would have been a grandfather at the age of 29, or thereabouts."
"(i) Writ de dote assignanda " Marie que fuit uxor Willelmi de Dacre chivaler defuncti," 3 Oct. (Close Roll, i Hen. IV, p. I, m. 37)."
Note (g) points out the chronological implausibility that this supposed Joan could not have been both a daughter of James, Earl of Douglas and (as wife of William Dacre) the mother of Thomas Dacre. So if not Thomas's mother, her information is relegated to a less important detail and would not be as important to this lineage.
Note (i) cites a writ assigning Mary, widow of William de Dacre (knight, deceased), her dower. The text dates it 3 October 1399 (he died 20 July 1399) Most social histories of that time period will tell you that such a writ was usually issued within 90 days or so of the death of the husband, as this was. But it identifies his widow as Mary. We have no evidentiary reason to suppose or speculate that Mary was also called Joan or that she was a Douglas.
The subject of illegitimacy during the Middle Ages could (and has) filled volumes. We know it was fairly widespread during that time period; not just among the nobility or royalty. Other than the fathers who acknowledged such children-and apparently most didn't-we only have the recorded instances of leyrwite in manorial courts to go by. Illegitimate pregnancies fell under the catchall term of fornication and leyrwite was usually levied against the woman. For men, such extramarital activities were held as a minor misdeed by medieval churchmen-that is, by those who weren't practicing it themselves. Finding records of out of wedlock children (at a time when perhaps 5% of the population at best was documented) creates a major and often insurmountable task for genealogists and family historians today. If there is no evidence, then following most genealogical guidelines (GPS and others), you'd have to conclude a connection can't honestly be made.
I didn't mention, nor did I notice anyone else in this thread mentioning a will for William de Dacre. Typically, not being mentioned in a will could indicate a number of situations. The child wasn't his, the child predeceased the father, the father had not acknowledged the child, or there could have been a dispute where perhaps the child was disowned. But, charters, chancellery records, charters, and other documents can sometimes be found that might help determine what the situation was and why a child was excluded. But where there is simply no primary evidence of a person ever existing you have to question why a researcher would want to include him or her in a genealogy (other than perhaps as a footnote). Genealogy is, after all, about documentation, not speculation.
As for the possibility of a middle name (e.g. Mary Joan Douglas or Joan Mary Douglas), I'm afraid middle names were not customary in fourteenth-century England. They are a later convention, something on the order of mid-1600s for England-even later before the usage could be called widespread. So, I'd have to disagree with that idea just on this basis alone.
You also mentioned lack of citations in the sources mentioned. If you carefully follow the footnotes in The Complete Peerage, The Scots Peerage, and other similar compilations (with a notable exception to Faris, The Plantagenet Ancestry, where they are usually found in the text) you'll find reference to the sources used. Case in point; CP IV (1916), p. 6 re: William de Dacre, Lord Dacre. While limited to a single paragraph on him, his information contained 6 footnotes (d through i) containing the following citations:
Fine Roll, 7 Ric. II, 12.
Close Roll, m. 13 d
Close Roll, m 42 d
Reference to p. 1, note "d." (which in turn referred to H. Howard, Howard Memorials)
Ch. Inq. P. m., Ric. II, file 109, no. 18
Reference to Dugdale (Baronage or Monasticon Anglicanum, unspecified)
Close Roll, 1 Hen. IV, p. 1, m. 37
As an example of the Scots Peerage (founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland) citations, here is SP III, pp. 148-155 footnotes for William, 1st Earl of Douglas (a favorite ancestor), father of James (2nd Earl of Douglas and Mar) and George (1st Earl of Angus):
Rotuli Scotiae, i, 709, 749
Reg. Honoris de Morton, ii, 46, 47
Foedera, iii, 246
The Douglas Book, i, 222-228
The Douglas Book, iii, 360, 361
cf. Seventh Hist. MSS, Rep. App. 527
Fordun, ed. 1871, 376
Acta Parl. Scot.,i , 522, 523
Sterlings of Keir, 199
Cf. Liber de Melros, ii, 428-433
The Douglas Book, i, 236
Bain, Cal. Docs. Scot., iv, No. 9
Cf. Acta. Parl. Scot.,i, 524, 525
Bain, Cal. Docs. Scot., iv, No. 91
Acta. Parl. Scot.,i, 495, 496, 526, 527
The House of Douglas, by Sir Herbert Maxwell, i, 86
Cf. The Douglas Book, i, 253, 254
Ibid, 255
The Douglas Book, i, 371
Rotuli Scotae, i, 960
Liber de Melros, ii, 478-480
The Douglas Book, i, 291; ii, 550
cf. The Douglas Book, i, 287
Reg. Mag. Sig., 16 April 1476
Mar Charter Chest
Gen. Reg. Ho., No. 220
Exch. Rolls, iv, 86
Les. Ecossais en France, Parl, Michel, i, 64
i 290; ii, 550
Antiquities of Aberdeen and Banff, iv, 731
Admittedly Cokayne's CP usually provides more sources than most, but it is one of the reasons it's considered a benchmark. It's important to check citations however. Your mention of these shows you are aware of their value. Case in point; earlier in the thread I mentioned Faris, PA, p. 105, the excerpt being: "…William de Dacre [5th Lord Dacre of Gilsland] (of baronial descent), by his wife Joan Douglas, said to be base-born daughter of James Douglas, 2nd Earl Douglas." His information is found under the title "Philippe de Neville," wife of Thomas de Dacre (son and heir of William); the citations being:
H.S.P. 16:84 (1881) (1563 Vis. Yorks).
Clay (1913), p. 37.
C. P. 4:7-9 (1916).
Paget (1977), p. 416.
You don't have to go far to find problems here when you check these sources. As previously cited (and despite the phonic spelling), you see in the Visitations of Yorkshire that the supposed father of this Joan was simply listed as the Earl of Douglas (therl Doglas). James was not mentioned by name, and, while he is a possible father, no explanation was given for the interpretation that this necessarily meant it was James, the 2nd earl. Then, the citation to CP IV contains information on William de Dacre on p. 6 and his son Thomas on p. 7, yet the authors are inexplicably citing pages 7-9. Pages 8 and 9 contain information on Joan, Baroness Dacre (p. 8) and Thomas Fiennes, Lord Dacre (p. 9) neither of whom are mentioned. Worse, they took information from p. 6, which they obviously read, but didn't include it in the citation; omitting any mention of the properly cited Mary in favor of the supposed wife Joan Douglas. There is more here that displays less than accurate use of source citations, but these two alone are sufficient to show that, at best, this wasn't very carefully researched or documented.
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Eugene H. EATON
[57809]14 AUG 1941 - 17 OCT 2024
_Samuel EATON _________________+ | (1815 - 1860) m 1834 _Eben W. EATON _____________|_Olive Joyce WEED _____________ | (1838 - 1874) m 1860 (1813 - 1860) _Silas Hardy EATON _________| | (1863 - 1890) m 1887 | | | _Silas Little HARDY ___________ | | | (1805 - 1860) m 1827 | |_Rosella Haskell HARDY _____|_Elizabeth Hardy HASKELL ______ | (1844 - 1927) m 1860 (1800 - 1860) _Eugene Sylvester EATON _| | (1887 - 1962) m 1906 | | | _Benjamin Jeremiah SYLVESTER __+ | | | (1817 - 1899) m 1839 | | _Benjamin Hale SYLVESTER ___|_Anna COOMBS __________________ | | | (1843 - 1867) m 1864 (1822 - 1900) | |_Sarah Benjamin SYLVESTER __| | (1863 - ....) m 1887 | | | _______________________________ | | | | |_Hannah Rebua HARRIS _______|_______________________________ | (1844 - 1876) m 1864 _Earl Sylvester EATON _| | (1907 - 1968) m 1935 | | | _Jeremiah Hobbs ("Jay") EATON _+ | | | (1789 - 1834) m 1812 | | _Jeremiah Hobbs (Jr) EATON _|_Rachel EATON _________________ | | | (1813 - 1880) m 1836 (1795 - ....) | | _Thomas Elwell EATON _______| | | | (1856 - 1920) m 1877 | | | | | _Samuel BLASTOW _______________+ | | | | | (1778 - 1864) m 1817 | | | |_Angeline BLASTOW __________|_Hannah GRAY __________________ | | | (1818 - 1906) m 1836 (1791 - 1847) | |_Lulu E. EATON __________| | (1888 - 1964) m 1906 | | | _______________________________ | | | | | ____________________________|_______________________________ | | | | |_Caroline Estella HENDRICK _| | (1858 - 1942) m 1877 | | | _______________________________ | | | | |____________________________|_______________________________ | | |--Eugene H. EATON | (1941 - 2024) | _______________________________ | | | ____________________________|_______________________________ | | | ____________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________ | | | | | | |____________________________|_______________________________ | | | _________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________ | | | | | | | ____________________________|_______________________________ | | | | | | |____________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________ | | | | | | |____________________________|_______________________________ | | |_Marjorie H. HARDY ____| (1912 - 1996) m 1935 | | _______________________________ | | | ____________________________|_______________________________ | | | ____________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________ | | | | | | |____________________________|_______________________________ | | |_________________________| | | _______________________________ | | | ____________________________|_______________________________ | | |____________________________| | | _______________________________ | | |____________________________|_______________________________
[57809] Eugene's obituary: "Stonington - Eugene H. Eaton passed away peacefully October 17, 2024 at his home in Stonington. Born August 14, 1941, in Little Deer Isle Maine, he was the son of Marjorie (Hardy) Joyce and Earl Eaton. Gene attended S.M.V.T.I of South Portland, where he studied automotive technology. After graduating in 1961, he worked on an 82 foot yacht, the 'Topsal,' as an engineer. Gene returned home a few years later to help run Shepards Garage in Stonington. When Shepards relocated to Rockland, Gene purchased the garage. Genes Sales & Service sold Evinrude outboards, Homelite chainsaws, Polaris snowmobiles, as well as new and used cars and trucks. Gene was also a distributor of Suburban Propane (now Gross Gas). Several years later, a construction company was purchased from George Fifield, and Gene Eaton Construction was created, a business he would run until his passing. Gene enjoyed many things outside of work, hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, being on the water. As an avid sports fan he followed the Patriots, Red Sox, and Celtics. His love was following his children and grandchildrens sports careers, and he would travel far and wide to watch and critique his kids. As a member of the Masons, he received a 50-year pin award recognition and was also a member of state championship Demolay basketball teams. Gene served his community as well, as a Selectman of the town of Stonington and as a member of the Island school board that built the new elementary school. For many years Gene and his wife of 61 years, Linda, wintered in West Palm Beach, Florida, where they would enjoy the company of friends and family who may be in the area. Gene is survived by his wife Linda (Shepard) Eaton and their three children Dean Eaton and his wife Daphne of Stonington, Barbara (Eaton) Violette and her husband Robert of Orland, and Darren Eaton and his wife Rhonda of Stonington. He was blessed with six grandchildren Shane, Audra, Spencer, Tyler, Alec and Allyson, and two great-grandchildren Zaylee and Tatum and their families. Gene is also survived by his siblings, Norma Morey and Sandra Seile and their spouses. Gene was predeceased by his parents, siblings Pearl Eaton, Bernadette Brady, step-brother Vaughn Joyce and a special granddaughter."
_Ranulf I, Duke of AQUITAINE ______________+ | (.... - 0866) _Ranulf II, Count of POITOU _________|_Bilchilda of MAINE _______________________ | (0855 - 0890) _Elbes Mancer, Count of POITOU ____________| | (.... - 0932) | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________________________|___________________________________________ | _William I of Poitou, Count of POITOU _| | (.... - 0963) m 0935 | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | _____________________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | |___________________________________________| | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________________________|___________________________________________ | _William II (Hugh), Duke of AQUITAINE _| | (.... - 0970) | | | _Eystein GLUMRA ___________________________+ | | | | | _Rogenwald, Count of MAER ___________|_Ascrida Rognvaldsdatter of JUTLAND _______ | | | (0830 - 0890) | | _Rollo (Robert), Duke of NORMANDY _________| | | | (.... - 0931) | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | | | |_Hildir, daughter of Rolf NEFIO _____|___________________________________________ | | | | |_Adele ("Gerloc") of NORMANDY _________| | (.... - 0962) m 0935 | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | _____________________________________|___________________________________________ | | | | |___________________________________________| | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | |_____________________________________|___________________________________________ | | |--William III, Count of POITOU | | ___________________________________________ | | | _____________________________________|___________________________________________ | | | _Theobald (or Gerlon), Viscount of TROYES _| | | (.... - 0944) | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________________________|___________________________________________ | | | _Theobald I, Count of BLOIS ___________| | | (.... - 0975) | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | | _Hugh, Count of BOURGES _____________|___________________________________________ | | | | | | |_Richilde of BOURGES ______________________| | | (0892 - ....) | | | | _Charles II "The Bald", King of AQUITAINE _+ | | | | (0823 - 0877) m 0870 | | |_Rothaut of AQUITAINE _______________|_Richaut (Richildis) of PROVENCE __________ | | (0870 - ....) (.... - 0869) |_Emma of BLOIS ________________________| | | _Pepin of VERMANDOIS ______________________+ | | (0817 - ....) | _Herbert I, Count of VERMANDOIS _____|___________________________________________ | | (0840 - 0907) | _Herbert II, Count of VERMANDOIS __________| | | (.... - 0943) | | | | _Guarri, Count of MORVOIS _________________ | | | | | | |_Bertha ("Lady Beatrix") DE MORVOIS _|_Eva DE ROUSILLION ________________________ | | |_Luitgarde DE VERMANDOIS ______________| (.... - 0978) | | _Robert "The Strong", DUKE ________________+ | | (.... - 0866) | _Robert I, King of West FRANKS ______|_Adelaide of TOURS ________________________ | | (0866 - 0923) (0819 - 0866) |_Liegarde of FRANCE _______________________| (0895 - 0931) | | ___________________________________________ | | |_Adele ("Aelis") of the FRANKS ______|___________________________________________
William III was also Duke of Aquitaine. "Ancestral Roots..." (Balt., 1992) 110-23. http://www.theroyfamily.com/gen/roy/p597.htm reports: "William III "the Great", Count of Poitou, was also known as William V, Duke of Aquitaine. In 1019 William married Agnes of Burgundy, Princess of Lombardy, daughter of Otto William, King of Lombardy, Count of Burgandy and Macon, and Ermentrude de Roucy, Queen of Lombardy, Countess of Macon. William III "the Great", Count of Poitou, died on Sunday, 31 January 1030 as a monk. Children of William III "the Great", Count of Poitou, and Agnes of Burgundy, Princess of Lombardy: Agnes of Poitou (+ d. 14 Dec 1077 ); Beatrix of Poitou; William V, Count of Poitou (+ b. a 1023, d. 1058); William VI, Count of Poitou (+ b. ca 1024, d. 25 Sep 1089). References: Weis, Frederick Lewis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England Between 1623 and 1650" Fifth Edition (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1982) and Stuart, Roderick W., "Royalty for Commoners, The Complete Known Lineage of John of Gaunt, Son of Edward III, King of England, and Queen Philippa" Fourth Edition (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2002).
http://www.francebalade.com/poitou/ctpoitou02.htm offers: "Guillaume V le Grand (995-1030): C'est le fils du précedent, il est né vers 975. Il épouse en premières noces Adalmode de Gévaudan dont il a Guillaume le Gros qui suit. En secondes noces il épouse Brisque de Gascogne dont il a Eudes qui suit, Adelais épouse du Comte d'Armagnac et Thibault mort jeune. Enfin en troisième noces il épouse Agnès de Bourgogne dont il a Guillaume VII Aigret qui suit, Guy-Geoffroy (Guillaume VIII) qui suit et Agnès l'épouse de Henri III Empereur d'Allemagne. Dés son arrivée à la tete du Comté de Poitiers, Guillaume se trouve pris dans le conflit entre les Comtes de Blois et d'Anjou. En 996 ce dernier Foulques Nerra se trouve en situation difficile et il fait appel à Aldebert de Périgord évoqué ci dessus. Il est devenu Comte de Périgord et s'est remarié à Adalmode de Gévaudan la fille d'Adélaide d'Anjou (tante du Comte d'Anjou Foulques Nerra). Aldebert traverse le Poitou et prend Tours pour le Comte d'Anjou et retraverse à nouveau le Poitou impunément. Après son retour en Périgord il se soulève contre le Comte Guillaume et fait le siège de la forteresse de Gencay, il y est grièvement blessé et meurt peu de temps après à Charroux qui est alors la capitale de La Marche. Guillaume épouse alors Adalmode, la veuve du Comte de Périgord. Il accorde le Périgord à Boson de la Marche et s'accomode avec Eudes de Déols. Il se montre reconnaissant envers Guillaume II Taillefer Comte d'Angouleme qui l'a aidé lors de son accession au pouvoir, il lui donne la tutelle des Vicomtés de Rochechouart, Melle, Aulnay ainsi que celle des Seigneuries de Chabanais, Confolens et Ruffec et enfin il lui apporte son aide pour se marier avec Gerberge d'Anjou, la soeur de Foulques III Nerra. Tous ces évènements contribuent à pacifier le Duché d'Aquitaine. Guillaume donne d'ailleurs une nouvelle signification à ce titre, au delà de la fonction militaire, le Duc d'Aquitaine devient, avec lui, progressivement un chef d'état. Guillaume parvient à gerer avec beaucoup de duplicité le conflit entre les puissants Sires de Lusignan et les Vicomtes de Thouars. Le Vicomte Savary III de Thouars s'était emparé d'un domaine appartenant aux Lusignan. Guillaume promet à Hugues le Brun Sire de Lusignan de le lui rendre à la mort de Savary qui a lieu en 1003, mais en pratique il l'attribue au successeur et frère de Savary, Raoul. Pourtant les deux ennemis arrivent à s'entendre, Hugues doit épouser la fille de Raoul. Mais Guillaume fait échouer ce mariage en proposant à Hugues de Lusignan la veuve de Joscelin I de Parthenay (qui n'avait laissé qu'un fils en bas age). Une fois Hugues d'accord, le duc s'arrange alors pour que ce mariage échoue lui aussi et provoque la guerre entre le Vicomte de Thouars d'une part et le Sire de Lusignan et le Duc lui meme d'autre part. C'est pendant cette guerre que meurt le Vicomte Raoul vers l'année 1014. Dans une autre affaire concernant Civray et mettant en jeu le Comte Bernard de la Marche, Hugues IV de Lusignan et Aimery I de Rancon, Guillaume manifesta encore beaucoup de duplicité, toujours aux dépens de Hugues et au bénéfice de Aimery de Rancon et de Bernard de la Marche cette fois. Hugues se facha et réagit violemment en s'emparant du chateau de Chizé, Guillaume fut obligé de traiter et cèda finalement à Hugues de Lusignan des domaines à Parthenay. C'est vers 1006 qu'étant devenue veuf d'Adalmode, Guillaume se remarie avec Brisque soeur de Sanche-Guillaume Duc de Gascogne. Plus tard, à la mort de Sanche, qui n'avait pas d'héritier direct, le Duché de Gascogne sera réuni au Duché d'Aquitaine. Dans ces memes années les Normands font de nouvelles incursions dévastatrices en Poitou, ce furent les dernières. Pourtant le Duc Guillaume entreprend de renforcer la défense de la cote Atlantique en donnant la place de Talmond et le sud du pays d'Herbauges à une de ses fidèles Guillaume le Chauve (sans doute un batard de Guillaume Fier à Bras, donc demi frère du Duc). Guillaume le Chauve épousa Ameline la fille du Sire de Parthenay qui lui attribua des domaines permettant ainsi de constituer la nouvelle Seigneurie de Talmond, en meme temps il construisait une forteresse à la Roche sur Yon, dans l'arrière pays. En 1019 Guillaume le Grand est veuf pour la seconde fois, il épouse alors Agnès fille de Otte Guillaume Comte de Bourgogne et d'Ermentrude petite fille du Roi de France Louis IV d'Outremer. Agnès est également la petite fille de l'ancien Roi Adalbert d'Italie. A cette époque Poitiers est en partie détruite par un incendie et Guillaume se consacre à la reconstruction de la ville. Il parvient à faire introniser le nouvel Eveque de Limoges, Geraud fils du Vicomte Guy de Limoges, par l'Archeveque de Bordeaux aux dépens du droit de l'Archeveque de Bourges, ce poste étant alors vacant. A la mort de Geraud, en 1022, Guillaume essaie de pérenniser ce type d'intronisation. Aussitot il se retrouve en conflit avec le nouvel Archeveque de Bourges et avec Robert II, le Roi de France qui a la tutelle du siège de Bourges. L'intervention de l'Eveque Fulbert de Chartres permet à Guillaume de faire amende honorable et de préserver l'attribution de Limoges à l'Eveque Jourdain. En 1024 l'Empereur d'Allemagne Henri II décede, les Italiens profitent de la situation pour essayer de se rendre indépendants et proposent la couronne d'Italie au Roi de France Robert. Celui-ci se récuse et les Italiens se tournent alors vers Guillaume de Poitiers. Après avoir hésité et même fait un voyage en Italie Guillaume renonce à son tour ne voulant pas se trouver en conflit avec le nouvel Empereur d'Allemagne. L'affaire trouvera son épilogue plus tard avec le mariage de la fille de Guillaume, Agnès, avec l'Empereur d'Allemagne Henri III. Guillaume fut un prince profondément religieux qui est allé en pélerinage à Rome et à St Jacques de Compostelle à plusieurs reprises. Pour autant il reste tolérant vis à vis de l'hérésie Manichéenne et des Juifs. Il a un role de régulateur et de médiateur dans les différents conflits entre hommes d'église de son Duché. Il en est ainsi en particulier dans les Abbayes de Saint Cyprien de Poitiers, de Saint Maixent, dans l'Eveché de Limoges et au Concile de Charroux. Il est ami avec Fulbert de Chartres. Il a eu sept enfants de ses trois épouses. La dernière, Agnès de Bourgogne veut que le Comté de Poitiers et le Duché d'Aquitaine revienne à son fils aux dépens des fils ainé des précedents mariages. Pour éviter cette spoliation, Guillaume le Grand transmet ses biens de son vivant à son fils ainé Guillaume. Il meurt peu après dans l'Abbaye de Maillezais le 31 Janvier 1030."
_______________________________________ | _______________________________________|_______________________________________ | _Crinan (Grimus) The THANE ____________________________| | (0978 - 1045) | | | _______________________________________ | | | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________ | _Maldred of ALLERDALE _______________| | (.... - 1045) | | | _Kenneth II MacMalcolm, King of SCOTS _+ | | | (.... - 0995) | | _Malcolm II MacKenneth, King of SCOTS _|_______________________________________ | | | (0953 - 1034) | |_Bethóc ingen Maíl Coluim meic Cináeda of SCOTLAND _| | | | | _Brian Boru, Great Monarch of IRELAND _+ | | | (0941 - 1014) | |_Blanaid nic BRIAN ____________________|_______________________________________ | _Maldred of WINLATON _| | | | | _Ealdred, son of EADWULF ______________ | | | | | _Waltheof I, Earl of NORTHUMBERLAND ___|_______________________________________ | | | (.... - 0970) | | _Uchtred ("the Bold") of NORTHUMBERLAND _______________| | | | (.... - 1016) | | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | | | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | | |_Ealdgyth (Ælfgifu) of NORTHUMBRIA _| | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | _______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | | |_______________________________________________________| | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | |--Uchtred Fitz Maldred, Lord of RABY | | _______________________________________ | | | _______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | _______________________________________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | _____________________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | | | _______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | |______________________| | | _______________________________________ | | | _______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | | _______________________________________________________| | | | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | |_____________________________________| | | _______________________________________ | | | _______________________________________|_______________________________________ | | |_______________________________________________________| | | _______________________________________ | | |_______________________________________|_______________________________________
[2108] Our line via Dolphin descends from Uchtred and his fourth wife, whose name is not known. Uchtred resided at Raby at the time of the Norman Conquest of Britain, 1066+. "Ancestral Roots..." (Baltimore, 1992) 247-22 states "b. ca. 1075/80, d. 1128/9, Lord of Raby, co. Durham."
_Thomas SAWYER _______ | (1556 - ....) _John SAWYER ________|______________________ | (1582 - 1660) m 1605 _Edward SAWYER ______| | (1608 - 1703) m 1654| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Agnes SHARPE _______|______________________ | (1583 - 1634) m 1605 _James SAWYER _______| | (1632 - 1703) m 1670| | | ______________________ | | | | | _Joseph PEASLEE _____|______________________ | | | (1600 - 1660) m 1625 | |_Mary PEASLEY _______| | (1610 - 1693) m 1654| | | _John JOHNSON ________ | | | (1564 - 1666) m 1586 | |_Mary JOHNSON _______|_Hannah THROCKMARTIN _ | (1604 - 1694) m 1625 (1570 - 1664) _Jacob SAWYER ___________| | (1687 - 1767) m 1716 | | | ______________________ | | | | | _____________________|______________________ | | | | | _Thomas BRAY ________| | | | (1604 - 1691) m 1646| | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | | | |_Sarah BRAY _________| | (1651 - 1727) m 1670| | | ______________________ | | | | | _John WILSON ________|______________________ | | | (1625 - 1687) | |_Mary WILSON ________| | (.... - 1707) m 1646| | | ______________________ | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | |--William SAWYER | (1735 - 1767) | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | | _____________________|______________________ | | | | | | |_____________________| | | | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | |_Sarah Elizabeth WALLIS _| (1689 - 1739) m 1716 | | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | |_____________________| | | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | |_____________________| | | ______________________ | | |_____________________|______________________
__ | _Johannes SCHIESSLE ________|__ | (1717 - 1828) _Johann Jacob SHEESLEY _| | (1743 - 1823) | | | __ | | | | |____________________________|__ | _Abraham SHEESLEY _________| | (1786 - 1871) m 1807 | | | __ | | | | | ____________________________|__ | | | | |________________________| | | | | __ | | | | |____________________________|__ | _Jonathan SHEESLEY __| | (1815 - ....) | | | __ | | | | | _John Michael LENKER _______|__ | | | (1730 - 1797) m 1757 | | _Johann Philip LENKER __| | | | (1759 - 1824) m 1782 | | | | | __ | | | | | | | | |_Catharine Barbara YEAKLEY _|__ | | | (1735 - 1780) m 1757 | |_Catharine Barbara LENKER _| | (1792 - 1873) m 1807 | | | __ | | | | | ____________________________|__ | | | | |_Elizabeth LARCH _______| | (1771 - 1801) m 1782 | | | __ | | | | |____________________________|__ | | |--John SHEESLEY | (1855 - 1893) | __ | | | ____________________________|__ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |____________________________|__ | | | ___________________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | | ____________________________|__ | | | | | | |________________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |____________________________|__ | | |_____________________| | | __ | | | ____________________________|__ | | | ________________________| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |____________________________|__ | | |___________________________| | | __ | | | ____________________________|__ | | |________________________| | | __ | | |____________________________|__
[32883] John m. Manerva Seal (b. ca. 1850). His ancestors are from the unverified Sheesley family tree in Ancestry.com in 2012. If he is the John (1855-1893) buried in Reynoldsville, Jefferson Co., PA, wife Elizabeth _____ (1863-1937) is buried with him. Find A Grave Memorial 65695065 offers different information for John.